You know, there's nothing quite like replying to your own message... Ok, I figured out what the problem is. This makes me feel extremely stupid, but I had the Lambda relay plugged into the engine bay socket, not in the relay compartment where it belongs. I was banging my head against the wall trying to figure this out, then it hit me. The car only started running like ass after we changed out all the relays. So, I looked at a diagram and sure enough, the Lambda relay was supposed to be next to the green relay. I went out, swapped the Lambda and the black relay in it's place, and the car fired right up. I could hear a very welcome sound this time... the FV was buzzing like a happy little bee. It was running rich, due to my adjusting the mixture earlier. SO, I hooked up my trusty dwell meter (which is now getting signal from the connection pin, interestingly enough) and dialed it in. Now, she's running just fine. Thanks for the suggestions, guys. If anyone needs me, I'll be sitting in the corner with a dunce hat on. Brandon Shelton VIN #4205 Orlando, FL --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Brandon" <morpheus34711@xxxx> wrote: > > On Sunday, (the day after our Central FL meet here in Orlando) a few > things were done on my car, #4205, including a fuel filter change and > a complete replacement of my melted fusebox and replacing most all of > my relays and circuit breakers, including my RPM relay. After stage 1 > was done, (fusebox and fuel filter) the car eventually started up and > ran once the fuel system pressurized. After this, we shut the car > off again and worked on replacing the relays and breakers. When > finished with this, we fired up the car again and it seemed to be > idling a little rough. We figured the ECU needed to re-learn > everything so we let it run. It leveled out, but when I took it for a > drive up to the local Sonic, it was hesitating on acceleration, almost > like it was being starved for fuel or running lean. > > We got it back to my place and hooked up the dwell meter. (I had just > adjusted my mixture the day before and it was good before this) I > started the car, and the needle moved almost all the way over to the > right then gradually crept back down to 0. Curious, I hooked it up to > #6720, parked right next to mine and it worked fine. Bamboozled by > this, I started trying to adjust the mixture my feel. I enriched it, > leaned it out, then slowly richened it till the idle smoothed out. > Mind you, the frequency valve is silent through all of this. I > swapped out my new Lambda relay with 6720, and his car ran fine with > both. My main question is: What does that diag plug connection for > the dwell meter (Top right pin when looking at it from the driver's > side)get it's signal from? What could have caused this issue? > > I took the car out again last night, and had the same lack of power > issue while the car was warming up... once it did, things seemed to be > ok power wise. When it started up, it was sputtering a little as > well. Any information or ideas would be helpful at this point, since > this issue makes absolutely no sense to me. Thanks in advance for > your help! > > Sincerely, > Brandon Shelton > VIN #4205 > Orlando, FL > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/