Most people have NO IDEA the amount of development and testing that goes into a product like a Zilla or any other of the better upgraded parts that venders make available. Many of the cars have had their wiring modified or maybe just burnt up. Then the owner expects to just plug in a new upgrade and is unhappy when it doesn't work. Part of what you pay for in that "exhorbitant" price is the customer service that is provided AFTER the sale. That along with their generous warranty. I had a Fanzilla go bad a week after I first installed it years ago. I got another no questions asked and quickly. I found out the unit had indeed failed, one of a handful. The replacement has worked flawlessly for years. I am sure every vender can tell you about the "customer from hell" where nothing they do can satisfy them. I am not familiar enough with all the different offerings to replace the fan fail relay but I can say that the origional relay is cr-p, the bypass jumper is dangerous, and the Fanzilla works. IMHO it is more elegant than most of the others in that it sequences that fans so it is easier on the electrical system of the car and makes the fail light in the console work the way it should. Too bad they are not available right now but hopefully will be again soon. BTW there are still some of the other Zilla products available in stock like Tankzilla. It is funny though, as bad as the Zillas are and their price, it seems everyone compares themselves to them. I guess they must be doing something right? David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Tom Watkins <outatime81@xxxx> wrote: > > Zilla products are the best, by far...they work in all cars without the nonsense that I have found with other vendors stuff...The excuses if their product doesn't work is usually "Well there must be something else wrong with your car" or "Your car must be wired differently"....Ya.... maybe but it's sad to see people "opening up" Zilla products just to screw with Bob. > > If vendors make a product it should work in all car regardless....or at least know enough about our cars to know the differences in wiring and be able to answer questions from customers about how to install the bloody things instead of getting rude and saying "well it works in all my other customers cars" > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/