Tom, What would you say is better, a New Bosch relay from one vendor at $14.95 or the same New Bosch relay from another vendor at $8.95. We use Bosch relay's in most all our modifications. There was a person on the list about a year ago that thinks more money buys a better quality. One of the problems with the car is the several variations and mistakes and information that is left out or not put into the diagram or changes made as it's going along the manufacturing process. If you don't have a fleet of cars to check them all out then there is no way to know that those, what I call shift changes have occurred. I understand the frustration by the customer and I also hate to hear it also. We just have to chalk it up to another change, correct the problem and go on. If your referring to the headlight switch saver, your welcome to your money back or I have fixed the wiring problem. I just installed one Friday in a customers car with the new change and it's working fine. Hopefully the new ones will be beefed up to handle the load, but if not you will find out when it melts down also. Then the anger and frustration can be blamed on the manufacture who can't build a simple switch to work. If I don't hear about a recall at least once a month about a major automobile manufacture having a problem it's rare. I guess the point is that nothing is perfect. John Hervey -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Watkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:25 AM To: DMC News Subject: [DML] Zilla Zilla products are the best, by far...they work in all cars without the nonsense that I have found with other vendors stuff...The excuses if their product doesn't work is usually "Well there must be something else wrong with your car" or "Your car must be wired differently"....Ya.... maybe but it's sad to see people "opening up" Zilla products just to screw with Bob. If vendors make a product it should work in all car regardless....or at least know enough about our cars to know the differences in wiring and be able to answer questions from customers about how to install the bloody things instead of getting rude and saying "well it works in all my other customers cars" Kick the Zilla line if you want.....I've got all of them in my car and all work 100%.....The goal should not be knocking Zilla because they are too expensive. That's the price... if you don't like it..fine, don't buy it. If you want to risk your car to someone who has only been in the DeLorean business for a brief period of time....hey that's fine too. My car is worth the extra investment in a product that is fully tested and not just in 20 or 30 cars but hundreds of cars with NO failures. Bottom line...it's your car, do with it what you will. If you want what's best for your car listen to the guys who have been doing this for 20 years!!!!! I'll never again purchase an electrical add-on or gizmo that some of you "invent" without first talking with the guys who really know what's up with our cars. I've done it before and literally pissed away some money on items that don't work as claimed and will not install per the written instructions. Seems simple to me Tom Watkins #05732 --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/