To the group, Before I rush off and make more HCR gears I'll have a talk with Stephan Winn to find out what the hardness spec is on the new gears. Before Houston built these new ones he asked me for input on the project and I mentioned that the original gears were soft but I thought harder gears like the HCR's (C60) were only a partial answer to the problem. The design of the housing allows little capacity for lubrication so that is another stumbling block. I don't know if the new unit's gears are harder so I'll ask him! I've had a pretty low failure rate on the HCR's (definitely below 10% after three years) but it's not up to the standards of the circuit boards or the Zilla products. No matter what you do with this design it won't last forever. A completely new (electro-magnetic?) design would be best IMHO. Houston invested in quite a few units to bring the price down so perhaps Stephan could pressure the manufacturer to come up with a better solution whether it's harder gears, better &/or more initial lubrication, quality control or some combination of the three. That's what I tried to do with the HCR's so maybe he can pressure the supplier to do the same? If the next batch he makes cost some more I think it would be a fair tradeoff. The venders have been working together more closely as of late so I don't see why together we can't put this problem to bed and move on to more interesting stuff for our beloved Dee's. Rob Grady P.J.Grady Inc. To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/