If you want to get into the "nitty-gritty" of the mechanics of removal it is pretty straightfoward. Probably the cheapest and easiest method is to remove the cat and "gut" it. Easier than getting a pipe made up with the necessary bends. Use a long piece of pipe and just poke the innards until it is all broken up and comes out. Put it back with some new clamps and nuts. Now, for the important part. What kind of improvement can you expect? Not a whole lot. This engine package was set up with the cat having a certain amount of backpressure. You will gain "some" low end torque but not enough to make the effort worth the trouble. If you are serious about improving the breathing of the motor you need to work on the WHOLE exhaust system. The factory system is rather restricive. It should all be replaced a la the DMC system being offered. In fact even with the 2 cats it is probably a much better set-up than the stock system. The results will still be limited by the intake and the cams. Unless you go with "systemic" improvements you gain little by upgrading of any one area. On my turbo car it has true dual exhaust directly into individual mufflers. Without boost (under around 2,500 RPM's) it runs like a stock, normally aspirated motor. It has a little more oomph in 1st but the gearing is not right for the higher low end torque and you "run out of gear" faster than you should. Again, you will never get a whole lot by doing only 1 thing. IMHO taking out a working catalytic converter is not worth the hassle all by itself. Now if it is plugged up and you are weighing the cost of a new one then it could be worth it. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ComposerZelgadis@xxxx wrote: > k apparently, I have been somewhat misunderstood. > > Matt wrote: "Is there anything I should do to tune the car for the lower > restriction. Is there any case against doing this?" > > Now granted, he did ask "is there any case against doing this." And To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/