David, This is just more security through obscurity. I seriously doubt any professional car thief is lurking on a relatively obscure Yahoo group just waiting for bits of information on how to break into and steal a De Lorean. If a car thief wants the car they will get it no matter what. The more information like this is shared among the group the better off everyone is to prevent this from happening to them, or being scammed during a new purchase. For example, if people knew how easy it was to replace the VIN tags they may look more closely at the tags for signs of tampering during a potential purchase. Lastly, posting HOW to do something is not illegal or wrong; the act of following through is. This applies to anything and not just our cars. Any person following this "recipe" to commit a crime is the guilty party, not the person discussing how it can be done so everyone can be better educated to protect themselves, and their car. Greg -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Teitelbaum Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 7:02 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] Re: Stolen in Seattle It is irresponsable for you or anyone to post in such detail how to commit an illegal act. What you are saying to do is not as much speculation as it is a recipe to commit a crime. We do not know all the circumstances of this alleged crime and to spread rumors about it is of no benefit to anyone. This could be a case of someone with a key "borrowing" the car or maybe it was repossesed. Time will tell but for you to explain in detail how vulnurable the identity of an individual car is is not in anyone's best interests. My origional post was bounced as it was deemed too personal a response. As far as I am concerned the moderator should have bounced cbl1302's post. The ultimate protection is insurance. If a thief is determined there is little an owner can do. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/