Hello, I know the last time I wrote on this site about this some people got all bent out of shape & I got some emails from unnamed & unsigned emails.any way. I've talk with 3 previous employees & 2 people from troy whom worked on the wood moc up & they all say the same thing from Vin 500 to vin 560 were factory built by the engineers to make sure how things would fit & how to design the car to perfection before the workers were trained other words how would you train them, the Black fiberglass training car were used just to get the employees to get the job done with out damaging S.S panels & parts as John didn't want to pay for anything more than he had to due to the tight budget. if you go through the history you will also find that Warrenty cars started at vin 560 gee why would they do that? why not 500? Because these cars were ment to be training cars, engineering cars, promotional cars, experimental cars & management cars, you can also look back at the Delorean history & see a clip were the car is being judged by every day people on comfort, sleekness, affordability, the only complaint they really had was hitting their heads on the door when they got out. that was in Aug 1979 (not the proto type eaither.) we can debate this forever but if you think about it you to might agree, you have to make regular cars before you can debug them & produce them in volume. Lawrence --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "d_rex_2002" <rich@xxxx> wrote: me recent research by several individuals, including myself, > has brought into question the actual build chronology of the > early 500 series cars and it appears that VIN...500 may not be > the first 500 series car off the production line. > > Stainless Steel Illusion claims that VIN...500 rolled off the > assembly line on January 21, 1981, yet a few other 500 series > cars were already in the US prior to that date and were on the > Auto Show circuit (including the 1981 Detriot Auto show) as > much as two weeks before this date. Several former DeLorean > Motor Company employees have helped to confirm these details. > > Many of these early 500 series cars were considered engineering > cars by DeLorean Motor Company employees, so it is difficult to > classify which cars were the first production cars intended to > be sold to the public. There are more questions than answers. > > Stayed tuned for more info on this topic and if you are very > interested in this topic, more details will be available at > the 25th anniversary celebration of the Delorean marque and > the DCS 2006 event next year. > > Later, > Rich W. > > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Michael Substelny" <msubstel@xxxx> > wrote: > > I believe the first production DeLorean is the VIN 500 car > (currently > > featured in a prominent and awesome display at the Crawford auto > museum > > here in Cleveland). > > > > I assume that I could go to my local BMV and get license plates > > for VIN 500 because its existence is recorded somewhere. > > I know some cars were made on the assembly line prior to VIN 500 to > help > > train workers, provide crash test vehicles and quality test > vehicles, > > etc. Do these cars have a different sort of record? Perhaps cars > made > > by the production process before the official start of production > are > > classified as "pre-production?" > > > > - Mike Substelny To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/