Welcome to the world of low volume automobiles. The DeLorean is certainly not unique compared to other manufacturers. The difference is that DeLorean did not survive long enough to have provided their own fixes for the problems you cite. This actually makes the problem worse, because there was a long time in the wilderness before the current vendor environment matured where there were an awful lot of hacks performed on these cars by largely well-meaning but underinformed mechanics. New DeLorean owners have to wade through these "repairs" to put the car back to where it was intended. This can be expensive and frustrating depending on their expectations. If they stick with it and avoid the siren song of the quick hack, they will eventually wind up with a car that is at least as reliable as other cars of the era. In my opinion, this is exactly why we need to have a vigorous concours for the DeLorean. Without a documented description of what the cars should be, new owners have no way to judge the condition or value of any particular car they might be interested in. Cars with "improvements" like one-off engine installs, gearbox changes, electrical modifications and the like are the ultimate hacks. Imagine you are a new owner of one of these cars and you have a problem. There is NO WAY the established DeLorean community can help you. You are at the mercy of whoever you can find to work on your car. At that point, every repair is an experiment because there is no body of knowledge to fall back on. Things really haven't gotten better with time. Porsche is dealing with chronic rear main seal failures in the Boxster and 911. They also have problems with intermediate shaft failures. I'm getting a new engine for mine because I was "lucky" enough to have both problems. Of course, there is no guarantee that the new engine won't have the same problems. So, does that mean I should try to cram a small block Chevy into it? I don't think so... -- Mike -------------- Original message from "Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxxxxxxxxx>: -------------- > You know, I mis-spoke. > I should not have said "unreliable". > Despite all the goofy problems we all have, the engine will usually fire up > and go... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/