I agree with Dave. Once the fascia is off, there is enough clearance to do teh job without too much concern. Most likely the Pearce frame has welded in reinforcements and threaded bosses to allow the use of the bolt-in/bolt-out cross member. You could of course do the same, but given the relative ease of doing the job once the fascia is out of the way, why go to the trouble? We have had Peter's engine in/out three times now. I never looked forward to doing the job, but I no longer dread it either. -joe Kuchan To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/