Runnout can be lateral or vertical as you point out. If it is the wheel (rim) there is little that can be done. If it is not too bad a wheel shop can sometimes bend or machine it out. If it is the tire sometimes remounting it can help. I do not like "shaving" to correct it. If the tire was properly made (and shaved) at the factory it should never be necessary in the "field". I also do not like or recomend dynamic balancing "On The Car". If you should ever have to take the wheel off you will lose the balance unless you index it back on in the exact same position. Tires can be balanced very accuratly with a dynamic balancer off the car. If you have a problem with the rotating assembly of the car (the rotor or hub) it should be corrected not "balanced out". BTW to balance ON CAR assumes that the bearings are perfect and are not causing runnout. That is not a good way to do it because every bearing will have some runnout and play. Bottom line is to have all 4 wheels dynamicaly balanced off-car. If it takes too much weight to balance or they are wobbling in and out or up and down on the machine find out what is wrong. Do not try to "shave" tires or balance a bent rim or a defective tire. Shaving tires is best done on heavy trucks with recaps, not cars. I jack the tire up off the ground and put a small piece of 2X4 next to the tire but not touching. Now spin the tire by hand and watch if the gap between the wood and the tire changes. It should not change more than 1/16 of an inch. Same for up and down. If it does move a lot check the rim. If the rim is bent the tire will not run true. If the rim is NOT bent the tire is defective. Another point to make. All new tires come with a mark to indicate where to put the valve stem in relation to mounting the tire onto the rim. If the shop does not follow that mark it can take an excessive amount of weight to balance the tire. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Bruce Benson" <delornut@xxxx> wrote: > One thing that I've gone through more than once is tire run out. If you jack > the car up just enough to get the tire tread an inch or so off the ground > and then spin the tire you can see if the tire is round or if the tread > appears to move up and down a bit. Many times it's the way the tire was > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/