Haha. I'm almost convinced that, from a structural standpoint, "boat cars" from the 60s were safer than what we have today. Simple law of physics: When two things collide, the heaviest wins. As for the DeLorean being safe / unsafe, there is sound proof on both sides of the argument. Go look at the crash test videos on Tamir's site (_www.entermyworld.com_ (http://www.entermyworld.com) ). At a 40 mph impact, the car falls apart. Yet the cabin is relatively unharmed. At 36, the damage is far less severe (but still catastrophic). And the only thing I can think of to explain the damage done to the front, is that there's no solid engine block in the front there to take the brunt of that blow. It's all going to the frame, panels, etc, etc. Which, given this design, that is *exactly* what it's supposed to do. Ideally speaking, if you were to get into a very bad wreck, that impact energy has to go somewhere. It can't just peter out. So, you have two options as to where that energy is going to end up: on the car, or on the driver & passengers. Needless to say, we want the car to absorb the energy, and leave the people inside unscathed. Which the DeLorean has an *excellent* track record for doing. There have been reports of DeLoreans getting into horrible wrecks. And we're not talking about 15 mph accidents in parking lots here, we're talking highly serious crashes. And each one of these wrecks that I can recall, the driver walked away unscathed, or with minimal injury. I believe it was All State who helped fund the safety-portion of the DeLorean project. Seems to me that they would be in the know as to how to make a car safe enough. Perfect example, there was one car where the trailing arm bolts in the rear of the frame sheared off. From what I understand, the car partially fell apart while moving, and flipped over. Driver walked away. Another example, I heard of one DeLorean being *driven over* by another car with the driver still inside. Roof of the car collapsed, but not 100%. Driver walked away. I don't think either case had a passenger, just a driver. But I could very well be mistaken. All I can say is, if you wear your seat belt, the car is essentially safe. :) This goes for *any* car. And safety, really, is relative. All wrecks, I don't care at what speed, or at what angle, or what car, they *all* have the potential to kill someone. A car with all the latest safety equipment is 100% useless unless that equipment is being used. Does your friend wear his seat-belt all the time? If not, I bet safety isn't what he's really grabbing for. If you really want, install an airbag system in the steering wheel. And, if feasible, perhaps on the passenger dash as well. You could also install a 5-point seatbelt harness system, like they have on those hyper-cars and racing vehicles. There's a lot of rice-boys out here who have those installed in their Civics, so I can't imagine the harness being *that* expensive. But alas, I haven't done my research on that part yet. Yeah, it's rice. But if you want safety..... >From what I understand, the frame is designed similarly to a Formula 1 racer. Back when the cars were being made, I believe DMC made the claim that the driver could survive a 60 mph head-on impact. However, the word "could" doesn't always lend itself to probability. At the end of the day, he's just jealous that he doesn't own one, or can't own one. Some people, when they get jealous, get hostile. It might also help that at one point the car was dubbed the "DSV-12" or something to that effect, which meant "DeLorean Safety Vehicle." Just one man's $0.02. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/