In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:03:48 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, wizard@xxxxxxxxxx writes: With all this talk about replacing / swapping frames, can anyone (with experience) tell us how difficult and time consuming it is? Day, weekend, week, month job? One, two, three, four man job? Lift or no lift required? It all depends on what you have if you do as Josh did and I will say Josh did a complete frame swap without ever having done one before in about 5 weeks It could have been done in a weekend but as was stated by Dave they got into it and decided to do it right and replaced all the parts. We did not have a lift but it does take a few times to use at least 5 people to move things. While the engine was out it got cleaned and on and on but the car looked new on the bottom when done. One note We (Josh) has parts that I have had sandblasted clean and painted so that if you want to do your car we would swap you (plus the cost to clean) the clean parts for your dirty ones so you can just go right to rebuild. this includes the pipes springs etc, Call Josh for that stuff (plug for Josh) But bottom line is it was done by someone that had not done it before. BUT if you have no mechanical ability or never have done a job like this I would get a lot of help. You need at least one person there from a safety standpoint that KNOWS what they are doing. It is too dangerous to do if you do not know the dangers. It is heavy and can fall on you. Josh learned by taking apart a few DeLoreans like the fire car and a scrap car so he this was his next step. But frame swaps are not impossible. But from the sound of this thread all you need is a crumple zone unless you show us more damage. Ken [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/