In a message dated 9/27/03 8:15:51 AM Central Daylight Time, brobertson@xxxx writes: > Louie G and I ran into pack of rice burners at a fast food restaurant > on the way to SEDOC. Wings, gee whiz decals, the works. Met them again > on a Georgia interstate hill. Easily accelerated past. Never saw them > again after that. It may be of note to know that the vast majority of these cars have $10K sunk into the body kits, wheels, tires, stereo, and tinting. at car shows i very rarely see one that actually has any engine modifications besides your typical cold-air intake, and a free-flow exhaust. it is also of note to see that this year's Honda Civic puts out at best 127hp with the most powerful engine option. with all those wings and body kits, surely the car weighs more now than it did stock (slower too). in fact, where i work i see cars like this all the time and usually they put most of their money on purple and yellow wiring looms/conduit, billet oil caps, and stainless braided radiator hoses. usually the engines and transmissions leaks copious amounts of fluid, not to mention most of the lowered ones have dented transmission pans or frames. oh yeah - almost every one of them has the Check Engine light illuminated. all show, no go - but then i suppose some would say that about the DeLorean too? I would like to put the 3.0L quad cam motor from my 94 Lexus ES300 in a DeLorean. about 197hp with lots of pull - even on the interstate at 85mph. Andy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]