As I remember you said the starter was rebuilt 1 year ago. Either it was a crappy rebuild or the car was flooded. If it was a bad rebuild don't go back there. If it was flooded I would inspect the car for other signs of water like the C/V boots, engine and trans oil, horns, etc. Not only is it rare for a starter to go bad it should have lasted a lot longer then 1 year. There is definatly something going on here and you should not stop after just replacing the starter. BTW from your description the solenoid could be bad, you need to check if power is actually getting into the starter. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Paul Salsbury <paul.salsbury@xxxx> wrote: > Well, I've taken everyone's advice and ideas and tried > them all, and thie is where I'm at. > > No issues with the battery > all electrics are working > all earths are good > Power and switched power to the starter/solenoid > > Last night I removed the starter from the car, and > tried to fire it on the workbench, and found the > problem, The solenoid will fire, and engages on the > starter, however the starter does not turn, I think > it's dead. > > Now I know alot of you have said that it is rare for a > starter to fail, however it's also rare for a torsion > bar to break. I've had one so maybe I can have the > other. > > Starter is now in for repair/Recon should get it back > monday. > > Thanks for all your help > Paul > > #6463 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com