One other side note on this subject, anyone who has ever done it, can tell you Dropping the frame and doing a seperation is not something you do over the weekend. Trust me on this one I'm in the middel of it myself. And as previously stated once you get in there theres a whole bunch of other stuff your gonna have to do because Oppertunity is saying knock knock!! Also don't expect one of the many D shops to jump on this job right off the bat either, I'm not sure how busy they are but frame seperations are needless to say not the most fun job in the book, and there time costly. also there very expensive and they lead to what I like to call Domino Expendatures. Take one thing off and find out that the one thing you just took off has turned into 2 seperate pieces and now have to replace it (my engine mounts for example) It's all a matter of time, money, elbo greese, and oppertunity. I'd personally just go for a sound car with a nice clean frame and just hose it off in salty weather. Easy, cheap and cost effective. A hose is like what 20 bucks? :D Todd Vin 5386 [duplicate quote snipped by moderator]