I can't remember if I used an extension or not, but I don't believe that I did. Removal of the arm rests isn't all that bad (try replacing a bypass hose on the water pump without removing the pump, THAT is a challenge!). I first sent this message privately off the list, but perhaps it's best shared. Plus there was one item I forgot. 1. Pull the upper door trim piece. 2. With the door locked, lift up the door latch handle, and pull the trim piece below up, and out. 3. Using a rachet & socket, reach down from above, and remove the 2 bolts holding the door grab handle in place. 4. Remove all screws that are holding the lower trim piece, and the pull strap in place. 5. Pry the lower trim/arm rest off the door. Installation is simply reverse. -Robert vin 6585 "X" --- In dmcnews@xxxx, BondAtomic@xxxx wrote: > I think all you really need to get the bolts of death out is a long > extension, a ratchet, and a 10 mm socket. Putting it back in is a different > story though-a lot harder to get in. Some guys use tape to adhere the bolt to > the socket so it won't drop. I actually went and bought a slightly longer > bolt so I could control it better to get it into place. > > Those two bolts have to be two of the hardest bolts on the entire car. If > not, tell me where not to go. > > John > 4275