Tom, please qualify this statement. Letting ANY engine idle for a time is a very GOOD thing as it gives the oil a chance to circulate around the engine. In all my cars I make sure to take the first 2 minutes on half throttle See this - written by a very qualified aussie scientist, and fanatical 4WDer. http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/trek/4wd/oil1.htm http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/trek/4wd/oil2.htm http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/trek/4wd/oil3.htm It's a good read even if you're not particularly interested in this thread. Quote: I was delighted by some research done by Castrol with Rolls Royce, at the Nuclear Research Institute at Harwell in the UK. They cut through some myths and got some hard facts. Over several years, they "X-rayed" engines while they were running. They used neutron beams instead of X-rays - they could, for the first time, actually "see" the oil flowing through the engine. The engineers were amazed by the results. Once the engine had started, it took much longer than everybody had thought for oil to reach all the parts of the valve train. In some modern engines, it took several minutes (not seconds) for the oil to reach all parts of the valve train and complete the oil circuit - and this was at room temperature! The situation got worse at lower temperatures. It took twice as long at 0oC, and 4 times longer at -10oC. Some engines have balance shafts that run at twice the crankshaft speed. The bearings on the balance shaft can suffer a lot of damage by running dry for a few minutes. A cold start can be a dry start. Martin #1458 Tom Niemczewski wrote: > Speaking of confusion... how many of you let the engine warm up for a moment > before you drive it? I bet that most people will say that letting the engine > idle for a moment is a good idea. And the fact is that this is the WORST > thing you can do!