Martin, Thanks for your detailed explanation. Although I'm not completely convinced that the situation is as you say I will admit that you have obviously done more research on the lock module than I have. Once Fanzilla came along it appeared that any attempts to fix the design flaws of the original module were not cost effective. For this reason I put the door lock module in the same category as the fan fail module, original window motor regulators, and the Ducelliar alternator. When replacing these items on cars in for service I just threw them into by dead parts bin. If you have need for door lock modules for rebuilding I have a box full; what do you think they are worth? For everyone who is observing this series of posts your not going to see any confrontation between Martin and DMC Joe. I have a great deal of respect for Martin and enjoy this exchange of information for the betterment of the DeLorean automobile. What's most important to all is that Martin and I both agree that disconnecting all of the connections to the door lock module is the surest way not to become victim to all of its deficiencies, and to quote Martin: "I also completely agree that in its stock form, the lock module should NOT be used, even if it apparently works fine". Respectfully, DMC Joe, Help Club DeLorean Web Mall: http://www.geocities.com/dmcjoe/home.html DeLorean Website Directory www.dmc.tv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Gutkowski" <webmaster@xxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <dmc_electrics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [DML] Re: Where is the common electrical leak? > Hi again Joe > > Please fell free to examine the circuit diagram here > > http://www.dmcnews.com/Techsection/graphics/lockcircR1.jpg > > It clearly shows that the fat red power supply wire is nothing more than > the feed which is switched by the relays on the module. It is NOT the > power supply to the module, that is pin 4 (marked "vio" for "violet") at > the upper left. Trust me, I've re-built several of these and have a > solid understanding of how they work. > > I actually recommended un-plugging both the harness and the red wire, because there is still a remote possibility of the relays "chattering" (perhaps going over a big bump) and powering up the solenoids. > > I would recommend anyone who wants a srronger understanding of this device should look at the DMC News tech section where there's an in-depth description of this circuit's operation. > > I also completely agree that in its stock form, the lock module should NOT be used, even if it apparently works fine. > > Martin > #1458 > > DMC Joe wrote: > > >Martin, > > > >You said: > > "...Hi Joe, sorry but this is not correct. ..............The red > >wire is simply the power supply to the solenoids." > > > >I respectfully disagree. > > > > The red 12 volt wire powers the lock module. The purple wire, which > >feeds the solenoids, is on the output side of the module therefore once the > >red wire is unplugged all power to the circuit is removed. > > > > <snip>