Ouch! Don't just kick me once, but twice here! Yes, the DeLorean is a car that did leave the assembly line with a quirk or two, but it is nothing that is poorly designed. Not just because I own one, but compared to other cars, it is a damn fine vehicle! It has a great design, and not all that many flaws. What car ever built hasn't had any recalls? And what flaws and quirks the DeLorean has, really are not all that bad. Hey, even my '97 Hyundai used pop-rivets to hold in/connect it's 3rd brake light. And believe me slightly bending the front facia with a screwdriver to remove headlights is absolutely nothing compared to having to pull an entire composite headlamp just to change a capsule bulb on a Chevy! As for being a shadetree mechanic, I didn't realize that made me a bad person. That and the fact that I'm unable to source my own parts. No, I don't the first thing about aircraft, no do I have an engineering degree. So when I need to buy heavier duty parts, I go thru a DeLorean vendor. The extra price I have to pay for things such as silicone hoses, rebuilt clutch master cylinders, brake calipers, etc... more than pays for itself. After all, I don't need to drive all around town, and call everywhere around the world hoping to buy parts that will fit, and/or dealing with people that I absolutely loath who always want to give me their views and opinions about my car. The vendors all take care of all this for me by doing the footwork. And even if I wanted to, I really don't have the time with my job. What free time that I do make for my car I would rather put into installing and repairing parts rather then hunting them down. And just because I myself, and others do the majority of work on our own cars doesn't mean that we're poor, cheap or stupid. I do my own work, and I always make sure that I use the proper parts and tools for the job. Just because I may not be rolling it dough doesn't mean that I can't afford parts, or have the know-how on how to install them. Plus, the price pays for improved, and reproduction parts. When i first came onto the DML, if you had a hissing mode switch, you had to buy a new one. The switches were rare, and the prices were high. Now, the part to repair it is only $25. Fuel distributors that used to go for over $1K+ can now be had for half the price. Platic door handles that were prone to breaking now have metal replacement parts. My old muffler bracket that snapped is now replaced with a heavier duty metal one. Shock and spring kits, louvre spines, reproduction side stripes, dome lights,over heat protectors, and one of the biggest of all; window switches! None of these items were available just a few years ago, but they are here now because of developement by vendors. When you think about it, it is amazing that products like these even exist. After all, by all estimates, only 6,000-7,000 people are going to be the only ones who are targeted for the market. And even then, that's no garuntee that they're going to purchase. Some may not need these parts, and others may not want them. So the extra price paid on, shall we say more "popular" items, or ones that are in demand will cover the losses, if not in some cases lessen them. Although it is true that the price of other items has increased a bit. As far as price markup on trivial items such as hoses and what not, the price isn't a big deal. Sure it may cost a little extra, but that's not a problem for myself that I've seen so far. -Robert vin 6585 "X"