I seems that from "day one" there have been two very VOCAL camps to which many DeLorean owners belong. One is the, for lack of better words "purist" camp. The other is the "modifiers". I suspect there is a third group that is larger than either of these but, perhaps unfortunately, is less vocal. I'll call these folks the "silent majority". Since I dislike generalizations, I'll use myself to describe this latter group. I don't go in for MAJOR appearance changes. I pretty much want my car to look like DeLoreans did when they came from the factory. Having said that, I admit to being quite willing to install things that make my car run better; ie., Zilla products, triple core radiator, self-bleeder, turbos, etc., etc. Yes, I generally purchase from the standard DeLorean vendors, and, yes, often that is because of convenience. Sometimes I wonder if I can do better, pricewise, if I were to go elsewhere. Often I don't even know where "elsewhere" is! Convenience has a value to me. (As a retailer who also has to compete with the internet discounters, I realize that the value of my services is not set by me, but by my customers.) I also do not have unlimited funds and, thus, would appreciate knowing of equal or better products and lesser cost. The DeLorean community has two extremely wonderful attributes. It is willing to share information and it includes some VERY talented people. ANYTHING that interferes with that exchange of information is a big loss to a lot of us. Over the years we have lost input from some people who got upset when personally challenged. That is extremely unfortunate. All of us lose when that happens. Perhaps we all (yes, myself included) need to think twice before hitting the "send" key. Information is one thing - opinions which cast aspersions are another. Let's all do WHATEVER it takes to keep the INFORMATION pipeline flowing with ALL ideas. Dick Ryan --- checksix3 <checksix3@xxxx> wrote: {BIG SNIP} I regret > taking that approach here and will refrain from > offering any further > information in the future. If you're personaly not > interested in > reducing costs, better engineering and materials, > improved SS fuel > baffles, intelligent door locking and release > systems, real > electrical improvements, electronic engine > management and monitoring > as well as other engineering that can be applied, > thats fine by me. {BIG SNIP} __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com