I have no knoledge of the FRAM Sure Drain, but I do have a suggestion if you want to avoid getting oil all over your frame. Take a foot-long cardboard tube from a paper towel roll, and put one slice down the side of it and fold it outward. Then stick it up between the frame and oil pan, and it stays there nice and snug. Then pull out the oil plug and it acts as a very nice channel to send the oil down to the drain pan. Happy oil changing. Jim Reeve MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club DMC-6960 --- In dmcnews@xxxx, Watkins Family <watbmv@xxxx> wrote: > I know we are on a "Fram sucks" thread but, has anyone seen the new > "SURE DRAIN" product from FRAM? It's a replacement for the oil > drain plug that quick connects to a drain hose. [moderator snip]