We have used these valves for years on inboard boats. If you think the drain plug on a D is hard to get at try a 29ft sport fish with twin 454's. The valves that I have used in the past would not fit in the stock location of a D, I am not sure about the Fram versions. Some people get nervous about the valve opening while the engine is running but it does have a spring loaded catch that must be lifted or pressed down, depends on the manufacture, then rotated 90deg to open the valve. If anyone finds a valve that will fit the D please let me know. Andrei #2767 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Watkins Family" <watbmv@xxxx> To: "DMC News list" <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: [DML] FRAM E-Z Oil Change > I know we are on a "Fram sucks" thread but, has anyone seen the new > "SURE DRAIN" product from FRAM? It's a replacement for the oil drain > plug that quick connects to a drain hose. You don't have to remove the > plug, just attach the connector twist it and the oil drains out. There > are different sizes for the specific oil drain opening (not sure what > size ours is!) Has anyone tried this new product, if so does it work > well? > > I use aluminum foil to cover the frame when draining my oil, it's a easy > masking to use but if this product really works it would make oil > changes much easier. > > Tom > #05732 > > http://www.geocities.com/outatime81/