ok...."Wrong" That black plastic plate on the original bracket IS the front of the bracket...it can not be removed (that I can tell...someone correct me if I am wrong) -----Original Message----- From: id [mailto:ionicdesign@xxxx] Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 1:46 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] Replacement DMC Housont Radio Console Woes > it looks to me like when you attach the heating and cooling > controls to the new plate it will hide the metal and when > you remove the stock radio and vent you will see a black > plastic plate that originally hid the metal on the original > bracket. i have seen setups like this on other cars and from > the picture it looks like there is a black plastic plate that > is covering the metal after you remove the vent and radio you > should see it clear. > correct me if im wrong > mark [moderator snip]