To comment on this, i will say that I can not know if i can do any thing if i have no base numbers for flow data, volume data, and cam profiles. Granted I know i don't have the experience that the guys that build nascar engines but i am not aiming for the same goal. nascar engines are built loose and with extremely high end stuff which is where a good percentage of cost is. not that i am saying that i could do it, nascar engine builders are vary much worth what they make. I am only trying to get the engine to put out more by using simple concepts that have been used for a long time. I am aiming for the 200 mark but i will see what i can do which what i got. I have a full machine shop and a machinists with almost 40Years of engine work under his belt to help and a shop that will grind cams to spec for me. there will be some trial and error but we'll see. I hope to find local D owners that i can use as test beds. also those that can get me parts at a good price will get in on the parts. i have discussed this with some that have contacted me off-list but we'll see. Darkstar ps just to counter those that will come up with the "he doesn't even use his real name" argument my name is Richard but most online call me Darkstar or DKS --- B Benson <delornut@xxxx> wrote: > I'm not trying to put anyone down here and I must > admit nothing in the post > below indicates there isn't the talent to accomplish > what's said > there but I feel compelled to comment because I > guess it makes it sound too > easy. I had the chance, a while back, to spend a > weekend with Mark Vieau > whose shop builds Winston Cup and Bush National > engines for several NASCAR > teams, and Larry Boeker who builds Pro Stock drag > engines for Reher > Morrison. One question I asked was how they justify > a $125,000 price tag for > one of their engines. Larry invited me to visit his > shop's back room > sometime to see the store house of parts used in > trying to find just the > right combination. These guys have thousands of > hours and decades of > experience in learning the particular > characteristics of the various > engines they work with. Even so there is still trial > and error involved in > adapting them to certain race track conditions. One > example is airflow > though the engine's intake. Sometimes more is not > better because velocity > plays an equally important role in engine > performance. Changing the profile > of a camshaft requires, among other things, knowing > how much valve overlap > is needed to maintain the best velocity of the > incoming air without loosing > some though the exhaust ports. How much lift works > for a particular engine > and what RPM range are you looking to gain power in. > Improving one area of > the engines range may reduce power or overall > performance in another. "The > folks in Texas", as they were called below, and > others like Rob Grady and Don Steger have years of > experience with the DeLorean and even so I'm sure > they have many hours in testing and experimenting > before they have something they're comfortable with > to offer their customers. I always have to question > when anyone claims to do this without that > experience and facility. When I hear folks claim > they're going to do this or that without presenting > their credentials I get really skeptical. As I said, > many of the posts like this don't indicate a lack of > experiance but nether do they present it. If you > take a shot at someone by stating that you'll do > something better then give us something that can > substatiate that claim. > > Bruce Benson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com