Robert: > untill someone actually gets one of these two venders door > opening kits installed, or gets a hands-on comparison, nothing else > can really be said. Kayo: > I have seen both products. The two are VERY different in designs > and >> installation and in their operations. One is like prime steak, the > other is >> like chuck steak. One is plug and play, the other is you must work > to make >> it work... Hey, guys, here's a news flash - my kits have been purchased and installed many times, and I've had them in my own cars for over 10 years. They work. Kayo, I'd like to know just where you saw my product since I don't recall selling one to you (but I might have since I've been quietly marketing them for years). Robert - you have solenoids, which I don't recommend, and your hot wires is one of the two reasons (the other being their weight). Solenoids draw a huge amount of amps. The motorized actuators do not. They will easily work on the existing wiring as they draw so little power. A 16 guage wire would be heavy enough. No. my kit is not quite "plug and play". But I believe most of us like to be able to work on our own cars, and it also helps to know how it works should something fail. I have been reluctant to market these kits because of the negative experiences some, like Robert, have had with makeshift setups. But this is a simple, tested, reliable design. It adds very little weight to the door, isn't that hard to install, and has proven very reliable. I'd really appreciate it if people would limit their comments to actual experience with my kits, not guessing about what they "may" be like. -- Darryl Tinnerstet Specialty Automotive 4 LaBelle Lane McCleary, WA 98557 PH: 360-495-4640 FAX: 360-495-4680