Mike, I know as the moderator said you mainly hear the bad over the DML. But I have put only 20,000 miles on one of my D's with no major problems and have taken several 4,5,600 mile trips with no problems. Any 20+ year old car will need maintence. There are a few updates that need to be made to make it more reliable. As you know with only appx 2 years of production, a lot of problems come to the top, but most of the vendor's as myself are addressing them. John Hervey www.specialtauto.com