Walt, I have 5 speed DMC-12. I never felt comfortable as far as my left foot position was concerned. All my other cars have had a footrest. Most of my cars he been standard shift. Last year Dave Bauerle installed a dead pedal on my DMC-12. It makes all the difference in the world. It feels just right. I am 5'-9". Gus Vin #05971 __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/