Dear Walt Took your advice and this past week went shopping for a good shoe polish for my luuvers. I found a perfect match, can't remember the product name or number, but at least two problems have since occurred. One, when I walk on the loovers, foot prints develop. Two, when I sat on the luuvers, I got shoe polish on the seat of my white pants. Even if I merely rub my forehead across the luvers, I get shoe polish on my face. All of this leads me to believe that this is not really a good idea. Could you possible come up with some other hair brained idea that I might try? Arnie -----Original Message----- From: Walter [mailto:Whalt@xxxx] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:06 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] painting louver ***** Moderator's Note As with any automotive refinishing project, proper surface preparation and the correct tools are an important part of success. Consult with an autobody specialist before attempting any large-surface restoration for the proper techniques and tools. ***** Every repainted louver I have seen didn't look good. I think the problem starts from painting over Armor-all with the 'fish eye' effect coming through. Another mistake I have seen is people using a gloss paint. Gloss paint makes imperfections show up all the more. Sanding before you start makes it worse. The better sanded areas are more gloss and look uneven. I think the only way to get a good paint job on a greasy louver is to totally sand everything down, use a textured primer to match the original texture and then cover it with a flat black top coat. Maybe you could remove the grease by spraying it down with a few cans of disc brake cleaner or engine degreaser. Instead of paint, maybe you could looking into finding a good oil based ink or dye that is weather proof. I used a laundry marker with great success to touch up small areas on my louvers. Maybe something like what is used in a laundry marker or a black leather dye would work. If your louver is already saturated with Armor-all, then maybe fight fire with fire and give it a good rub down with black shoe polish. Ha! Don't knock it. It just might beat painting it. Walt Tampa, FL Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderator@xxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/