In a message dated 3/17/01 10:10:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, CBL302@xxxx writes: << Has anybody used their OEM tire jack,to change a tire,or should it just be kept for orignialty,as it is a very funky type of jack, >> Claude, yours is as early as anybody on the list, so I have question. What does your handle look like? Mine for my '82 is shaped like a long Ford Model T crank handle, and on paper I've seen '81's with a ratchet that fits over a stub. But there also seems to have been a non-ratchet lever type with a rod handle and a "lollipop" end that fit over the stub, kind of like a closed end wrench. I'm wondering if you, or anybody on the list, has one of them. Off the top of my head, I don't think that's addressed in the DMC Houston Concours Manual either. Only place I've seen it is on a very early parts book. I wonder if those even made it into production? Seems like a really hard way to crank up a car. Any comment, List members? Anybody got one of these? Wayne A. Ernst The New DeLorean Manuals Project vin 11174