In a message dated 2/18/01 6:51:51 PM Central Standard Time, graves_14@xxxx writes: > I took the whole door apart, and needless to say it wasn't > Tyler, instead of buying the 'keyed' firtrees, i found it much easier to find some by HELP! which have two discs at the top. with tin snips, i broke off 1/3 of the smaller disc on the tip of it, and then i was able to twist it into the door panels. pretty painless, and i was able to buy as many as i needed at my local Checker Auto. Andy Soma576@xxxx 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596 Fargo, ND 58102 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]