In a message dated 2/11/01 2:19:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, raddad@xxxx writes: << I do know, however, that the maintenance free batteries from NAPA, EXIDE, INTERSTATE and OPTIMA all fit in the space very nicely and have both top and side posts on them. >> I called my local NAPA guy a few days ago and he was at a loss to identify their equivalent to the Optima Red Top. So I got the Optima for $169. (gulp!) at a different place. Today the NAPA guy got back to me. Theirs is the "NASCAR Select Orbital Battery," part number 9934/78 and he listed a price of $124.99 Looks like the Optima, (like a six pack) and uses the same type of design: six independent spiral cells in a heavy duty case, low self discharge rate, side and top terminals. He doesn't carry them in stock but could get them. Two year free, 84 mo. pro rata replacement. The Optima has a "two year" warranty, but I'm not sure if it is the exact same as the NAPA. Two years doesn't sound very long if it's pro rata! (Declining percentage of reimbursement.) -Wayne A. Ernst The New DeLorean Manuals Project vin 11174