Regarding Fascias and concourse judging, I think all of the original fascia will show a tape mark from the original packing that was used to protect the DeLorean in transport (it may only be visible in certain lighting and at a correct viewing angle). The tape was installed at the factory! So shouldn't a car that is truly original have points taken off if the fascias have been painted and are missing these marks? Which is more correct, a freshly painted fascia that looks perfect or an original one that has what looks like a defect but is certainly more original and correct then a perfect fascia? When I was first trying to understand Concourse judging I found a description that said something to the effect that in a 300 point competition a brand new Porch right off the show room floor would probably be a 150 point car. A concourse car is not only what the car is but also what it should be. I think James Espey has done a great job with his concourse judging manual and has given us all a great bench mark for us all to use as a standard point of reference. Certain items will always be subjective and maybe even controversial. I don't think it is possible to come up with an absolutely correct standard. At least now there is a published standard for DeLorean Concourse judging and if you want to win you try to meet that standard regardless of what you think is right or how it should be. If this were a black and white issue there would be no need for judges at all. Mike D. Vin 3113 NY Lic DLORIANN Moderators please delete if this is a duplicat msg