> Claude wrote: > > and then Lotus just "cheapened" the Delorean by coping their Lotus Esprit > Lotus did not "copy" the Esprit. Lotus had nothing to do with the design of the DeLorean, at least not the styling design. The DeLorean was designed and two prototypes were built in Detroit long before Lotus engineering got involved, about 2 years before. Giugiaro of Ital Design did the final design work in 1975 and built a full scale model according to his contract with DMC. Lotus engineering was hired by JZD in 1978 to do the production engineering work. Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) Midlothian, VA USA