Right on the money! I tend to agree, that concourse competitions do not do any good for the delorean population in general. I also think it is somewhat of a put-down to "loose" because a radiator clamp has been replaced, or some detail like that. Many of us have replaced some of the external body screws with stainless screws, Do you loose points for that?! This is why I am looking forward to the R&R hall of fame show next summer! There are enough categories to cover all sorts of De Loreans. If the DOA starts to do this, with pressure from DMC Houston, It will allow more owners to participate in the shows. But, as James admits this is because they want to sell more parts! (Thanks for being honest James). This brings me back to concourse cars, the winning cars are generally owned by people who can afford, and are willing to spend the money necessary to make the car a winner. Maybe if we all just brought in our financial statements, it would make judging easier. No need to have fellow De Lorean owners bend, kneel and crouch for several hours to judge! :) Gus Schlachter wrote: > > You know, this thread reminds me that I really hate concours competitions. > Nothing says "waste" to me more than showing off a car that is clearly never > driven! > <SNIP>