Having seen many "sleepers" and drivers I can tell you in general you are usually better off getting something that is running no matter how badly over something that has been sitting for an extended time. First off you can actually see what works and what doesn't where on a "sleeper" you usually can't even start the thing. If you can't start it you can't tell if the brakes, clutch, transmission, electrical system work so you have to figure it will need EVERYTHING. After you finally do get it to run you find leaks, all the previous owner's "repairs", all of the problems that caused it to be left for dead, etc. A running car can at least be evaluated. When a car sits (especially outside) it tends to rot faster, the brake and clutch systems rot from the inside out, the frame disintegrates (especially if it is stored on dirt with covers over it). The owner of the car that sits thinks because it doesn't accumulate any mileage it is actually MORE valuable when the opposite is generally the case. When you finally do get the sleeper running it is like old age catches up all at once and everything lets go quickly. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/