John that is what some of them are saying but i dont believe it either, I am on your side for this discussion. Mark V On Friday, December 3, 2004, at 11:07 AM, John Hervey wrote: > > > Hey Guy's help me out here, > So, What yall are saying is that when new products come out there will > be no > improvement in performance and efficiency because it wasn't available > 24 > years ago for them to evaluate when they designed the car / engine. > Then all the claims that Bosch, MSD, Mallory, K & N not counting all > the > other the 100's of companies that have the engineering money are wrong. > For example, Bosch in the platinum + 4 plugs. They have poured > Millions into > design and research and state the +4 is the Best plug. MSD again have > poured > millions and have developed a multi million dollar industry in improved > ignition performance products. > And K & N took 50 year old technology and improved the air filter from > being > big and bulky to compact and spray on the oil. Maybe if spray oil was > invented 50 years ago the old oil bath filter would have never been > made. > If what your are saying is true, then why are engineering departments > all > over the world trying to build a better mouse trap and always trying to > improve the existing ones. > Sorry, I don't understand: I just know That if you keep on doing what > your > doing then you keep on getting what you got. > John Hervey > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike.griese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:mike.griese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:59 PM > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [DML] Re: Upgrading the Air Filter > > > > > Marty - this reinforces my point exactly. It's kinda funny that > a bunch of experienced engineers with a large amount of > resources available to them can deliver a better design than > a novice. > > -- > Mike > > > -------------- Original message from wingd2@xxxxxxx: -------------- > > >> >> >> Mike, >> >> I agree with you on this. The only real way to verify claims of power >> increases is thru actual testing. Like David T was saying, these >> engines > were >> developed with all the parts working as a "package" and just > changeing/modifing >> one >> part of this package does not necessarily equal performance gains. >> When > Casey >> first came out with his new air filter housing I liked the design, but >> questioned the actual gains that were claimed. We've done actual dyno > testing >> (Bob >> Brandies has the charts) of the stock Delorean air filter housing and > different >> filter combinations available for the car and, believe it or not, the > stock >> Delorean air filter housing is designed and works very well with this > engine. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see > www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see > www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/