Rich, Your absolutely correct, The is no HP or mechanic in a bottle and HP cost money and or time. Ounces make lb's and these improvements are just a few of the ounces. Again, I'm not claiming any major break thru, just a little more when you wish you had it. Just an FYI on the K&N filter. If some of you remember back in the fifties when you used to change the oil in the air filter. Those were the best free flow air filters and K & N just made it more practical by having oil on a gauze sandwiched between the screen. John Hervey www.specialtauto.com President & Chief Bottle washer. 9 to 9 24/7. -----Original Message----- From: cruznmd [mailto:racuti1@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:21 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] Re: Upgrading the Air Filter? I realize this topic has been beaten to death and I'm no engineer (not automobiles anyway) but my thoughts are this: Martin's reference to air flow velocity vs. the shape of the air path is more commonly known as Bernoulli's principle (Also related to flight) http://www.mste.uiuc.edu/davea/aviation/bernoulliPrinciple.html so yes, changing the path air follows could increase your horsepower. That said, I cannot speak to the merits of John's airbox. I would like to point out though that if you're looking for some kind of magic bolt-on horsepower you're not going to find it with this car. It's my opinion that none of these items individually will provide you with a quantifiable increase in horsepower or performance. However, when combined as a whole the results can be impressive. Meaning if you combined an ignition upgrade with dual exhaust and a free-er flowing input the results would be worth the effort. Did I buy his K&N filter? Yes. Why? Because I noticed that my paper elements get dirty often and I get tired of waiting for a new one to come in the mail. I find it easier to wash and reinstall the K&N filter. That alone made it worth buying. Rich A. #5335 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "John Rydholm" <ebondefender@xxxx> wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > I was browsing through SpecialTAuto.com's website after having > ordered some standard and some not-so-standard tune up parts, and > just wanted to ask your opinions. Does anyone think upgrading the air > filter/cover with one of those expensive K&N style filters with the > Lexan covers is worth it? And how do they work anyway? That cover > looks all nice and stainless etc. but it's OPEN! I mean, isn't the > stock air filter cover clamp on for a reason? I may not be a genius > in the car mechanical area, but still...Seriously, what are your > thoughts? > -John To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/