(I was out of town all last week on vacation, and just now am catching Gary's posting.) Gary and list - The DeLorean community doesn't need another internet-only part seller - it needs more service centers. You never hear anyone on the list complaining about where to get parts, only where to get service near to where they live. We'd love to see a service center open in an area that is not currently served by a DeLorean-specific center and we'd support it all we could. The fact remains that ALL of the "on the side" parts sellers that have popped up in the last 20+ years have all gone away - anyone here remember Scientific Automotive (Ben Byrd), DeLorean Specialties (Fred Lockett), DeLorean Gold (Gene Tufaro), DeLorean Parts (Teri Jennings), Joe Perotta, Harry Ward, Elite Motors, DeLorean Specialty Products, even DMC Joe. Some of the things that some of them sold were not that well designed or suited for the purpose for which they were sold. All of them have/had the best of intentions, but changes of life or other reasons caused them to disappear (and in some cases intermittently re-appear only to disappear again), leaving behind a trail of broken promises, warranties, etc. Something to keep in mind when you decide where to buy your parts. Many owners complain about the stupid thing(s) the "PO" (previous owners) did to their cars, without realizing that in some instances they are doing the *same* things to their cars when they bypass the proper vendors (those with shops that have the hands-on experience with the parts they sell) any by parts that may or may not be the correct ones. Just because a part happens to be listed in a cross-reference listing for the DeLorean does NOT mean that it's the RIGHT part for the car. How do I know this is true? Because we see a lot of cars here at DMC (Texas) that have changed hands a time or two. We know that the car with the overheating problem that has the aftermarket Volvo waterpump or the car that doesn't run right that has the NGK or Bosch copper plugs belongs or used to belong to "Joe Owner" and we've been called/emailed or the car has been brought in to us the make it right. In my mind that is the only good thing about people buying these incorrect parts - we get the extra income making it "right". James Espey ------------------------------------ DeLorean Motor Company Vice President james@xxxxxxxxxxxx 15023 Eddie Drive Humble, Texas 77396 USA tel: 800/872-3621 tel2:281/441-2537 fax: 281/441-2813 http://www.delorean.com ------------------------------------ (Gary, I think for the record you should have stated that you/your company (Xynext Internet Strategies) created and/or maintains and/or hosts websites for two of the companies that fall into the category of selling parts but not having a service center - John Hervey and Toby Peterson (Special T Auto and DeLorean Parts Northwest). So to some degree it could be reasoned that your comments have a financial motive. I don't believe that to be true, because I know you and that's not the type of person you are.) Gary wrote: Please take this as it is intended - as honest feedback. Personally, I disagree with the apparent DMC-T decision to cut off specific vendors - supposedly because they don't have a "dealer-like" business - rather than setting up reasonable wholesale prices based on volume. But it seems to be their decision to make - for better or worse. However what really upsets me is DMC-T's arrogance and lack of ethics in essentially calling specific vendors "Improper" - by referring to selected vendors as "Proper". There is more than enough hate and discontent on this list without adding fuel to the fire by using this term on a regular basis. Please be honest and just refer to DMC-T's chosen "dealer-like" vendors as DMC-T's "Selected Vendors". Thanks, Gary IN2TIME --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.778 / Virus Database: 525 - Release Date: 10/15/2004 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/