Japheth - The square is about 5/16", which is in between the standard square drives for most ratchets. Some people make a tool from a larger allen wrench by grinding one end square to the proper dimensions. Others actually have the correct tool to use for this. I personally (many years ago) took a 7/16" diameter bolt, cut all but about 1/2" of the shank off, and then used a file to make the remains of the shank square. I just slip this "tool" into the plug, and use a box-end wrench to turn it. You can do whatever works best for you, but that is the scoop. Toby Peterson VIN 2248 "Winged1" DeLorean Parts Northwest, LLC www.delorean-parts.com --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "secret_jedi_guy" <secret_jedi_guy@xxxx> wrote: > I'm trying to change the oil, but I can't figure out how to get the > plug out of the oil pan. It looks like it just has a square hole > where you put in a ratchet with no socket and unscrew it that way, > but everything I've tried is either too small or too big. It looks > like the same plug on the transmission fluid pan but it is hard to > see. Is there a special tool to get the plug out? To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/