--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "darryl" <darryl@xxxx> wrote: <SNIP> I don't understand why anyone would want to keep waiting so they can pay more for an unproven system if and when it is ever available. <SNIP> Easy. Almost every car out there on the road today has some sort of factory badged, aftermarket parts line. MoPar, TRD, Nismo, Ford SVT, MuGen, etc. These parts suppliers/developers serve two purposes: 1. Performance Improvement & 2. Quality Recognition. Watch some of the Car Shows on TV, or speak with some hardcore wrenchers of any marque. Just as important as the result of using these products, comes the act of telling others that you have purchased, and installed said parts into your vehicle. Aside from fuction, use of specificly branded products helps to further one's pride in one's own vehicle. Whereas we DeLorean owners have nothing of the such, that has left a void, and the 'Zilla line of products inadvertenyly filled that void, to an extent. Don't believe me? Next time a group of you gather around, listen to each other, and listen to how you all brag about you cars. Everyone is quick to rattle off what 'Zilla products they have installed. Infact, you guys & gals most time list them first, before anything else. After all, who here last listed shoving a jumper into the relay socket, in an efffort to prevent your A/C panel lights from melting your car in the daytime, as one of the "mods" you've done to your car? Hell, you can experieince the same thing by reading peoples' web sites that they've built for their cars. Now, I am not knocking the 'Zilla products at all. Like I've always said, they've servered a dual purpose: Increase the reliability of the DeLorean automobile, and draft a standard for what issues should be corected in the DeLorean automobile (please remember what issues need to be corrected, is a far cry from what is a better solution. I.e. John Hervy's idea of isolating the power feed to the cooling fans is a superior long term solution vs. PnP installation IMO). So, when you have a reliable product line, with great marketing, that is what has instilled such consumer loyalty. Now, 'Zilla products are great IMO. HOWEVER, 4 years and nothing new isn't exacly a good sign to me. Unless we hear something by years end, I for one am willing to consider the 'Zilla product line defunct. As for a product line brand name, we really need one. That alone would REALLY inspire such loyalty to the vendors, and as a result inspire pride, to feed that loyalty. "Hard Core Line", or DMCH's new: (Blank) don't really inspire me to buy anything. Especially with such high prices (exhaust system). I know that money paid to the vendors results in better product development, and their continued existance. But nothing there really jumps out, and *inspires* me enough to affect my purchasing decisions for 100% vendor loyaty, if I've nothing to show for it (keep the 'zilla factor in mind while reading this). I have more pride telling people that I bought a new Swiffer mop, rather than I donated money to feed poor people. I'm a consumer, cater to my ego, not my sympathy. -Robert vin 6585 "X" To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/