In a message dated 9/9/2004 9:30:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, yahoo1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Are the vendor's workshop manuals as bad as mine? Mine looks photocopied, and is in a huge three ring binder. Pictures are almost impossible to see (they look like large black blobs), page numbers are hard to read and I can't find a decent table of contents. So it's almost impossible for me to find anything. Hello Ryan- Sounds like a homemade photocopy, as you said. The vendor repros are clearer but I find that quality varies a bit, plus there are still some pale, hard to read areas. Not always the vendors fault. A lot of the originals are pale too, like part of the wiring diagram. I've never seen a fully readable original yet... or one for the '82-83 configuration. The Service Bulletin repros vary a bit on what they include. As someone already said, these manuals are not terribly owner friendly, having been designed for dealer tech use only. Nobody has taken it upon themselves to do any editing or updating of the manuals, and some errors do exist. I've been griping about this, and wanting to do it for years but never got past collecting all the original manuals. That's why you should use use the manuals for general information, but confirm and get specific info from the vendor you get your parts from. Wayne A. Ernst vin 11174 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/