(The reason you don't see any Lincolns up there is because now they're all sitting in my driveway). - My DeLo came from Philadelphia PA. - 4 of my 5 Lincolns came from KY/MD/MD/NY. - Gave my little brother an AMC that survived *MICHIGAN* (special note to the List: if you want a car that can truly make it up north, sell your DeLo and buy a 1981-later AMC). I know ALL about road salt. Live with it every day. Only metric car I've ever worked on is the DeLo. Grade 5 fasteners seem to survive much better than grade 8.8. May be because coarser thread pitch is usually used. Fasteners are larger too (5/16" minumum, 3/8" and 9/16" more common -- roughly equivalent to 10mm, which just happens to be the exhaust stud that started this thread...). Road salt is preferrable to beach salt. Car is at least not exposed to it year 'round, and damage is limited to wherever the wheels can sling it. Beach salt is airborne. Gets into the tiniest nook & cranny. Will totally eat up an electrical system, from one end to the other, even inside the dash. I'm willing to resurrect road salt cars. I refuse to buy a beach car. Part of Martin's problem is that 4 foot long cheater. If a fastener isn't going to turn with a foot or so, guarantee 4 feet will snap it off! Before he resorts to the gorilla handle, should try more heat. If MAPP gas doesn't do it, he'll have to move up to acetylene. People don't like to spray down a fastener before heating it because of the smoke. But I think all that bubbling and boiling helps to break it loose. Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Dave Swingle" <swingle@xxxx> wrote: > You are fortunately spoiled by not working on rusty northern (salt- > belt) cars. On the vehicles I just purchased in SC, I'm amazed at the > condition compared to what I'd expect around here. The hardware on > the bottom of the 6-year-old truck is still shiny and comes apart > easily, on a vehicle from around here I'd have been torching/breaking > everything apart. Deloreans that have been stored in humid barns can > have the same issues even without the salt. > > FYI - You don't see many Lincolns around here more than about 10 > years old, any that are have large holes in the body. > > Dave Swingle > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/