You're more than welcome to look under my car: 4 factory original rusty studs still intact in the manifolds. Soaked the nuts for a week or so with penetrating oil, zapped them with the plumbers torch, then removed them WITHOUT a cheater (isn't room). Rich Acuti is the proud new owner of my gutted catalytic converter, also with 4 intact factory original rusty studs. Ask him. I think most people mess up removing rusty hardware: - Not using enough penetrating oil (we're talking days of soaking) - Using WD-40 instead of real penetrating oil - Not using heat - Using too long of a handle - Rushing the procedure Another alternative is nut splitters. Used one on my Renault block to break off the manifold to head nuts. Didn't loose a single stud. Need to shoot up a roll of film so perhaps I'll post pics to #5939's photo album soon. Remember: we're talking about steel on steel here, not steel into aluminum. Electrolysis isn't the problem. If the threads themselves haven't deteriorated, they're just blocked. Once the nuts are off, only a mad man would replace them with carbon steel again. My whole dual exhaust is stainless except for the manifolds, studs (not nuts or washers), and mufflers themselves (couldn't find stainless ones small enough). Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Martin Gutkowski <martin@xxxx> wrote: > Thought I'd add my 2p, because although I like to let Bill dig his own > holes these days, I *do* have quite a bit of experience here. > > I've never removed the 10mm manifold-to-crossover nuts without breaking > at least one. Some come off with deliberate shear points evident. They > often require a 4' extensions bar and the intention is to deliberately > break them then. The annoying ones are the ones that insist on > unscrewing! (this is when doing manifold gaskets). > > Personally I change a clutch slave from the top by removing the intake > manifold. There's a trick way of doing it without removing the metering > head/intake venturi assembly. Takes me about 15 minutes to get to the slave. > > Martin > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/