I agree with you on the shipping issue, I hate that too. I usually give "free" shipping on anything I sell. We all know nothing is free, I just build it into the cost of doing business. Your right about certain nuts and bolts and things. If you know where to find them go get them, but sometimes it's easier to use a part number! These cars are exotic toys, not the rusty Volkswagen that a poor college student can afford. Basically, if you can't afford to play then get out of the game. THe subtle hints that these people who give these little speeches about "buying from the venders" means, that there are in fact a lot of politics going on. If you piss off one guy, then he or the others won't sell to you. The other thing is that a lot of these people only do this stuff part time. They don't sell the "good stuff" every day, they stay in business by selling the little things we all need. By supporting them this way it keeps them in business. If they were nt around and the only parts you could get were from ACE Hardware, where would you get a new angle drive or window switch? The more vendors the better. Competition keeps the prices down. If there were no vendors, and all there was was DMCH it would be like the old D1 days. People like Hervey keep the prices low because the other vendors need to keep up. Some of the vendors rely on loyalties, or will use tactics like: "buy everything from me or I will sell you nothing".....(I actually had a major vendor tell me that!). So, take time too revel in your spring purchase, but when you need something serious and hard to find you better be thankful to find a vendor that has been saving that part for the last 20 years just in case someone like you needs it. -Videobob >From: "MATTHEW D SPITTLE" <supermatty@xxxxxxx> >Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: RE: Buying from Vendors (was:[DML] T-panel foam) >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:37:38 -0400 (EDT) > >106722 INSULATION, ROOF PNL $38.18 > >$38 for a piece of foam, plus shipping. That's expensive for a college >student, >even one working full-time. > >I'm not having much luck with the vendors lately. I basically don't buy >from >the vendors unless it's DeLorean specific. Some examples: > >One time I ordered a hood latch spring from a vendor. The cost was $2.95. >When >the spring arrived, I saw that the total sale was $17. Yes, it was $14 for >them to ship a spring to me. It could have fit in a regular envelope with >a >single stamp. When I installed this high quality, SEVENTEEN-DOLLAR-SPRING, >it >didn't make my hood *pop* open any more than the original one did. So, I >went >to Ace Hardware, picked up a spring for $1.50, and now my hood pops open! > >Another vendor I called 3 times so far about getting door keylocks, but no >luck >so far in getting back to me, and it's been almost a month. I tried >another >vendor, but they said the locks aren't available. Oh well, it must not be >that >important. > >I won't mention all the times when I was a newer owner and I found out by >calling one of the vendors that something I need wasn't available. Well, >let >me mention one...one time, I called a vendor and realized I wouldn't ever >be >able to have a functioning engine compartment cover because there were no >more >hinges available. > >So these are the events that inspire me to boycott the vendors for all but >the >most exclusive/unreproduceable parts. If you feel the same way I do, let >me >recommend E-Bay (www.ebay.com) and Josh Haldeman (jhaldeman@xxxxxxxx) as a >source for your DeLorean parts. Neither of the said sources ever run out >of >certain parts; neither take multiple phone calls to ensure items are >shipped, >and neither charges me over 4 times the cost of the total order to have it >shipped. > >Last time I checked, the DML was independently operated, without commission >from >vendors(or is it?). For this reason, I would like to respectfully ask the >moderator to add the phrase, "Go get one from the vendors." and all >permutations of that phrase, to the list of items which are caught in the >net >during the moderating process. > >I've heard the argument; that if we don't buy all of our nuts and bolts >from a >vendor, then we won't fund the remanufacturing of new products that aren't >available. Well, either those new products, or the vendor's new Ferrari. > >I'm not trying to stomp on anyone's toes, but I think we need to remember >consumers drive certain merchants to sell, not the other way around. > >Matt >#1604 > >On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:41:12 +0000, Travis Goodwin wrote: > > > The T Panel has a custom shaped piece of foam. It's best if you just >pick it > > up from a vendor, their not very expensive. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matt [mailto:supermatty@xxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:37 PM > > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [DML] T-panel foam > > > > What kind of foam is used for underneath the T-panel? Can I get > > this at Lowes? > > > > thanks, > > > > Matt > > #1604 > > > > > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > > moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see >www.dmcnews.com > > > > To search the archives or view files, log in at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > > moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see >www.dmcnews.com > > > > To search the archives or view files, log in at >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > > Yahoo! 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