Here is the thing that I have been struggling with.... By the time you spend the money on a PRV to stretch it to it's limits to get 200HP out of it, you could put in a modern engine that would kick it's ass stock. DMCH's engine upgrade has been on my mind and I have deeply considered it. I need to go drive Steves black car and see for myself. I don't need something that will melt the rubber off the rims, but the other day a Ford F150 truck whipped my ass so bad I wanted to cry. I had no chance, and this was a friggin pick up truck! That's just BS man. I am not a fast and furious speed demon or anything, but this is the most wimpy ass car I have ever owned. My Ford Taurus, with a 3.0 V6 will whip it. I drive this sucker every day in Dallas traffic, the key to good city driving is being able to zip in and out between the slow zombie drivers. I am sick of being bested by every Honda Civic out there. Something has got to be done. - VB To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/