I do not like ramps. For the most part they are made very cheaply. Even on a hard level surface many are so weak that you could push the car sidways and the ramps would just fall over. In many cases you would hit the underbody of the car if you where to try to drive up onto them. If you have to jack the car up anyway jackstands are MUCH safer. Jackstands take up less room and allow you to remove the wheels, you can't do that with ramps. Most of the time when you need to get a car up off the ground you have to remove the wheels anyway. You can get a car a lot higher with jackstands than a ramp and for a Delorean it makes it nicer to work under if you can get it higher. I would never go under a car with a creeper that is on ramps. For some jobs like trans and clutch ramps are just too low. You can get a good set of 2 jackstands around 2-3 tons for $25 per pair. You can easily spend more than $50 dollars for 1 set of ramps. Of course you will have to spend for a floor jack but it is one of the more useful tools you can have for a car. NEVER EVEN THINK OF USING CINDER BLOCKS TO SUPPORT A CAR!!!!!! They can crumble without warning. Same goes for wire milk crates, plastic boxes and all the other things you can imagine. If you are doing work on the car for enjoyment and/or to save money it is worth your life to spend a little of your savings on some quality tools. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, tobyp@xxxx wrote: > Adam - Having the car on ramps is absolutely okay in terms of > torqueing up the TAB's. The only condition that is really "sub- To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/