I know that this issue is getting really old, and redundant I might ad.... But let's review my method and let me know if you are talking about something different. First, let's identify the "Ground". The only ground placement I know of is a small cluster of loops that are bolted to the right rear of the console. These in turn run the length of the wire harness and ultimately end up on the negative terminal of the battery. There are more grounds placed within the engine, the frame and a braided copper wire that links to each piece of body work. Is this correct? Now, let's assume that the ground for the stereo is the same ground for each of the speakers. Assuming that these are the same, then would it stand to reason that if all of the speaker ground connections where also tied to any other ground point, be it the stereo or the wire harness then they would all be grounded to the same source? If this is true then only the speaker output "hot" wires need to be separated and distributed to each corresponding speaker. Meaning, that if you took my wire harness adapter and took each of the speaker ground connections as well as the power ground and crimped them all together, and then ran each of the speaker wires to the corresponding speaker then you should be able to wire the harness adapter in such a way that all 9 of it's connections are used correctly when wired to the stereo in this manner, that when plugged it everything would work properly? This is what I did, and it works great. Maybe the exception is my particular stereo allows this type of grounding. My argument is that there is only ONE ground source for the car and it is all universal, so what difference does it make how the ground is made, rather from the harness or by a separate direct line sent to another ground point. Does this make sense? - Videobob >From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [DML] Re: Grounding Each Speaker Individually >Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 01:10:03 -0000 > >For the "purists" out there you really do need to have a dedicated >ground (return) wire for each speaker. Of course this assumes that the >amplifier you are using also has separate returns. It does no good at >all if they are all connected together in the amp. Any high quality >amp "should" have separate and discrete wiring for each channel. The >cheaper amps will cut corners and tie things together inside. For the >very best the return is NOT connected to ground and is in fact "fully >floating" so it isn't really called ground but is called return or >negative. When you get into high power levels it does matter. >David Teitelbaum >vin 10757 > > >--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Peter Lucas <lucas@xxxx> wrote: > > > > Here's some potentially useful info from a message I posted about a > > year ago on this topic: > > > > > As an alternative to rewiring the speakers, you can solve the "common > > > ground" problem with an inexpensive device called a "floating ground > > > adaptor", such as the Peripheral FGA4. I bought one recently from > > > River Oaks Car Stereo: > > > > > > http://www.installer.com/acc/index.html > > > > > > Cost was $22.95. > > > > --Pete Lucas > > VIN #06703 > > > > >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: >moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > >For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com > >To search the archives or view files, log in at >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar ? FREE! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/