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There are 16 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. RE: Brake M/C Reservoir Cap.
From: "Mike Griese" <mike.griese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2. Re: Alabama owners and mechanics
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. Monroes and Gabriels
From: Sonny V <sonnyvr2000@xxxxxxxxx>
4. Windshield Washer fluid tubing
From: "Mike" <Michael.Fischer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Renting or watchin a Delorean along the east coast?
From: "arielleviatan" <ariel_l@xxxxxxxxx>
6. Attn: Mike Cohee
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
7. Picture please
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Re: Monroes and Gabriels
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. Tech Session/cruise - Western PA - Pittsburgh
From: "dom1172" <dom_diaz@xxxxxxxxxxx>
10. Positive Story about the DeLorean
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw@xxxxxxx>
11. Vinal stripe
From: Samuel <samuel_yahoo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
12. Parts Car Parts
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman@xxxxxxxx>
13. Re: Renting or watchin a Delorean along the east coast?
From: "content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
14. Re: Monroes and Gabriels
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft@xxxxxxx>
15. Re: Vinal stripe
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft@xxxxxxx>
16. Re: Positive Story about the DeLorean
From: "content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:25:56 -0500
From: "Mike Griese" <mike.griese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Brake M/C Reservoir Cap.
But that wasn't the question....
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hervey [mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:46 PM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [DML] Brake M/C Reservoir Cap.
Mike, My experience has been that yes you can bleed the fluid but you can't
get all the potential goo out of the caliper with out taking it apart and
cleaning it out and refill. Just a comment. Take a look at it on the bottom
of the page.
http://www.specialtauto.com/delorean-parts/brakes-rotors.html
John Hervey
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.griese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mike.griese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:22 PM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [DML] Brake M/C Reservoir Cap.
Check out http://www.vq-speedi.com/ They have a cap that is
just what you need.
--
Mike
> Does anyone know of an after market cap that will fit the DeLorean
> Brake M/C Reservoir, BUT is a solid single piece? And if so, is it
> available @ a regular retail-chain auto parts store?
>
> When I bleed the brake system, I would prefer to use positive pressure
> to flush the lines, rather than vaccum. So I'm figuring on building my
> own unit, since none are readily available localy, and it's a simple
> device anyways.
>
> -Robert
> vin 6585 "X"
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:54:11 -0000
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Alabama owners and mechanics
--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "a56lincoln" <a56lincoln@xxxx> wrote:
> I live East of Birmingham off I20 and am wondering about club
> activities in Alabama. I'm also looking for a mechanic in the area.
> Any info would be appreciated. Thanks
I know of a DeLorean mechanic in Alabama. He lives East of Birmingham
off I20. ;-)
(Mechanics who are NOT Delorean service centers like DMC Houston, PJ
Grady and such do not like working on DeLoreans for a variety of
reasons. The biggest being an unfamiliarity with the car, fear of
being sued and the fact that they make their money on high-volume
work and if your car turns into a "bay-hog" or "garage queen" you'll
cut into their profits. Plus, they'll likely just screw it up.)
Ya better get reading those manuals!
Rich
#5335
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 07:33:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sonny V <sonnyvr2000@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Monroes and Gabriels
Does anyone else besides me think it makes *NO* sense
at all to put shocks from a Camaro and a Nissan truck
on a rear-engine car with such uneven weight
distribution (65R/35F) as a DeLorean? Can someone
(Marty?) who advocates this explain why it is okay to
do this?
Sonny V
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:06:48 -0000
From: "Mike" <Michael.Fischer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Windshield Washer fluid tubing
Hi All,
Does anyone have a good picture/diagram of the tube routing for
the windsheild washers? After it leaves the pump in the front
corner, it disappears up into the body someplace, then finally
emerges at the windshield.
The parts manual has a bit of a picture, but I can't tell if it
goes on top of the fender, to the side etc.
As it is, mine's leaking (or disconnected) someplace between the
pump and the sprayer and for the life of me I cannot find where it
goes.
Thanks,
Mike
#17106
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:19:29 -0000
From: "arielleviatan" <ariel_l@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Renting or watchin a Delorean along the east coast?
Hi everybody!
I was wondering if it is possible to rent a DeLorean for one day
somewhere along the US east coast?
Being a DeLorean fan, I want to have a "close encounter" with this
can in September when I will be coming for a trip in the US.
I was looking to rent one, for one day, somewhere along my trip
route, from Buffalo to Orlando.
If this is not possible, I would have to settle with viewing a
DeLorean on a car show or a museum. Does anyone know about such an
opportunity in the month of September anywhere on the route from
Buffalo to Orlando?
The trip route is very flexible, and I will have no problem to
change it in order to go through any such location.
Thank you for your help,
Ariel Leviatan
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:19:41 -0400
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Attn: Mike Cohee
Hey Mike...
I've been trying to send you something and keep getting this:
------ Here is your List of Failed Recipients ------
<mcohee@xxxxxxxxxx>
Destination mail server returned error code 454.
Just thought you should know.
-Dave
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:32:27 +0100
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Picture please
Does any one have a good clear picture of an air con Condenser, fitted or not fitted to the radiator. If you do could you please mail it to me or point me to an URL
Cheers
Paul
#6463
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:11:18 +0100
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Monroes and Gabriels
Well in my understanding, it's the spring that takes the weight and the
shock absorbes the movement and dampens out the bounce of the spring.
Cheers
Paul
#6463
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sonny V" <sonnyvr2000@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 13 August 2003 15:33
Subject: [DML] Monroes and Gabriels
> Does anyone else besides me think it makes *NO* sense
> at all to put shocks from a Camaro and a Nissan truck
> on a rear-engine car with such uneven weight
> distribution (65R/35F) as a DeLorean? Can someone
> (Marty?) who advocates this explain why it is okay to
> do this?
>
> Sonny V
>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:53:31 -0000
From: "dom1172" <dom_diaz@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Tech Session/cruise - Western PA - Pittsburgh
As I mentioned in a prior post I was hoping to have another tech
session(and maybe a mini cruise to a local weekly car show -Danny's
in Bethel Park) sometime in August. That time is looking to be
Sunday, August 24th. I will have a rain date as I want as big a
turnout as possible but that date has not been solidified yet. The
last session was great and there were a lot of resources there
(though this time I actually would like to focus on OTHER people's
Ds). Hopefully, we will have torsion bar adjustments, oil changes,
POSSIBLY emissions testing, and whatever other projects we can get
done in a day, within reason. For example, last time we got all THIS
done on my car (granted we had all this experience there, and only
two Ds:(-):
Replaced oil sender
Replaced Fuel accumulator (with surrounding hoses, thanks Dan P./Dave
S. !!!!)
Replaced angle drive (well, ok, Dave S. pretty much did this single-
handedly)
Replaced Rear Springs (Man, was that thing a pain to get off on the
right side)
Replaced TABs (I don't think one was supposed to have a 135 degree
bend in one side....OK, this was pretty much ENTIRELY Dan P and Dave
S.)
Adjusted passenger side torsion bar
We also got to see the cool stuff Pete Lucas has done to his car and
help his fix his vacuum leak.
5497 has been running great since then! The things I'd like to tackle
this time around are small. I'd like to re-seal around the rear
quarter windows and change the speedo cable (also replacing the
bracket). That's it. I want the focus to be more on the people's cars
that could not make it last time. Try to bring your D, as we will be
scheduling a rain delay. Significant others are welcome. I will
probably be providing the basic essential food (Hot Dogs, Hamburgers,
Beverages....mmmm, beer). Contact me off-list to confirm your
attendance, what work you'd like to do, and I will e-mail directions.
Folks who were in attendance last time and (I hope) are coming again:
Pete Lucas (the only other D in attendance, darn that rain!!!)
Chris Bowman (who's D is in another state, at least it WAS, is it
back yet?)
Jeff Porter (the documenter, and photographer)
Dave Stragand (needs no intro, ProjectVixen.com, 'nuff said)
Mr. and Mrs. Dan Plakosh(wow, talk about a guy that could have lost
patience with all the work he did with my accumulator but didn't)
You're welcome to bring your D just to show it off!!
Dom Diaz
VIN 5497
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:45:26 +0200
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Positive Story about the DeLorean
Hi everyone,
With all the stories about things breaking down on this list
I'd thought to share some positive experience with you all...
The past weekend I've been upto The UK and back from my
home in The Netherlands to have fun with the DOC-UK as
guests at the Renault Club UK at Gaydon, near Birmingham.
I made it out there and back home without any real troubles,
my clutch is definately starting to show signs of wear,
the blower motor bearings ar definately busted and a
couple of lights on my LED-panel decided to go on strike.
Other than that my trip wasn't really eventfull.
The most exiting time I had was getting off of the ferry
and seeing my fuel light coming on and staying on...
I thought there was a gas station just outside of Calais,
but instead there was a sign saying that the next services
were past Dunkerque.
It turned out to be 15 kilometers into Belgium, over 70km
from Calais. To preserve fuel I shut off all unneccesary
stuff like the A/C, blower and radio. At the end of the off
ramp when braking to queue up to the pumps the car stalled...
Got it running again and could finally fill it up again.
It took 50,96 liters of fuel! Meaning I had only 0,7 left!
After re fuelling it was smooth cruising home, with an
occasional traffic jam, but not to bad.
I arrived home at 02h15 CET (01h15 GMT).
Some stats for my trip (thanks to my nifty bike computer):
Total Distance traveled out and back: 1511,5 km (± 940 mi)
Total actual driving time: 15h48m (time from home: 42h15)
Average Speed driven: 95,55 kmh (± 59 mph)
Maximum speed attained: 182 kmh (± 113 mph)
My car now has 41288 miles on it, over 12000 more
than when I bought it allmost 3 years ago!
Best mileage I got, with the A/C on constantly, lights on
and stereo playing quite loud: 9 km to the liter (±21 mpg?)
Not bad I would say!
The lights on my LED-panel should be easily fixed,
I'll have to examine the blower motor a bit more before
I decide what to do with it and the clutch is only STARTING
to show wear, so I'm "saving" it now, so I can make a 120mi
trip in three weeks and then doe the work it needs...
All in all I think my DeLorean held out quite well and
I really enjoyed my stay in Brittain. For those of you
that think a DeLorean is not relieable;
I think I've just proven you wrong!
If it weren't for the clutch (probably 20 years old)
I would do it right again in a heartbeat!
JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different... Using a Mac...
Living the Dream... Driving a DeLorean...
Shifting Expectations... Driving a Nissan...
DMC-12 "Dagger" since Sep. 2000
100NX "Saphire" since Nov. 2002
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:36:52 -0400
From: Samuel <samuel_yahoo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Vinal stripe
If a car has a stripe down the side, is it possible to remove the stripe
and what would it take? Would there likely be a mark left (example, the
usually noticable mark where the delorean logo on the hood on the 83's
is removed).
Samuel
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:27:43 -0400
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Parts Car Parts
Hi Everybody,
My name is Josh Haldeman, and I'm a Deloraholic. (haha)
I owe Ken Koncelik money...so I have agreed to relieve him of his
DeLorean disassembly duties...It's a horrible, sad job, but somebody's
gotta do it.
Anyway...my ulterior motive in helping him is that about two weeks ago
my DeLorean had a rather unwanted, and unpleasant meeting with a
Mercedes station wagon. Ken's parts car, (VIN 5609) will now hold a
small part in returning VIN 5102 to the road, from previously totaled
condition. I've grown quite attached to VIN 5102, (Lori-ann) over the
past four years, and believe it or not, have actually fixed more stuff
than broken...so I hope everything will turn out okay here too.
Anyway, I've been disassembling VIN 5609 for about a week now and have
almost been brought to tears more than once. This is a perfect example
of what was a well made car, that was treated very poorly. If it hadn't
sat in a mud puddle up to it's axles, with gas in the tank for around 6
years, it would be a stellar example of our marque. Unfortunately time
and the elements have taken their toll, and the patient has, most
assuredly, passed on.
Anyway...Ken is having me deal with the entire parting out process, and
things have been going smoothly thus far. If you have not received an
e-mail from me, and you ordered parts from Ken, e-mail me and let me
know about it. (jhaldeman(at)fuse.net) If you would like to see if a
part is still available, you can e-mail me about that too. I will work
as hard as I can to get everyone the parts they need quickly for their
babies, at a reasonable cost.
As soon as the DML backed influx of orders dies down a little, I will
start putting unrequested parts on ebay. We still have a lot of good
parts left, but you should inquire quickly in order to secure anything
you need or want.
Yours truly,
Josh Haldeman
VIN 5102 (thanking VIN 5609 for it's windshield)
VIN 15964
and representing VIN 5609 for the moment
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 02:07:05 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Renting or watchin a Delorean along the east coast?
Might be able to ride shotgun with an owner to SEDOC September 20-21:
http://specialtauto.com/sedoc/
Am part of caravan from North Carolina 9/19 myself. Anyone further
north, or returning to Florida?
How are you travelling otherwise?
Bill Robertson
#5939
>--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "arielleviatan" <ariel_l@xxxx> wrote:
> Hi everybody!
>
> I was wondering if it is possible to rent a DeLorean for one day
> somewhere along the US east coast?
> Being a DeLorean fan, I want to have a "close encounter" with this
> can in September when I will be coming for a trip in the US.
> I was looking to rent one, for one day, somewhere along my trip
> route, from Buffalo to Orlando.
>
> If this is not possible, I would have to settle with viewing a
> DeLorean on a car show or a museum. Does anyone know about such an
> opportunity in the month of September anywhere on the route from
> Buffalo to Orlando?
>
> The trip route is very flexible, and I will have no problem to
> change it in order to go through any such location.
>
> Thank you for your help,
>
> Ariel Leviatan
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 02:14:44 -0000
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Monroes and Gabriels
The weight does have some affect, but the springs have the most
impact when choosing shocks. I have found that the springs on a D
take a LOT of shock to dampen the ride both compression and rebound.
Wimpy shocks will let the car bounce all over the place - probably
from the short wheel base rather than the weight disribution. Even
though I think Grady's shock are great and Marty's rear shock set up
is ideal for day to day driving - the best front shocks are the OEM
shocks in my opinion. I was fortunate enough to have a pair that is
actually NOS that was stored correctly that I put on - I hope they
can last a while.
The reason is the rebound - slow and smooth. Marty's front shocks
have a tendency to accentuate the rear rebound and make the car feel
like it was going up and down too fast. They would also allow the
front suspension to compress completely (bottom out) and were just
too soft for me (the roads are harsh around here). My car has
Grady's front springs so I can't speak for stock springs. The rear
shocks from Marty have a softer rebound and compression than
DeLorean OEM. OEM shocks are stout shocks and when they wear out
they tend to get harsh and not compress smoothly - so my car was
pounding and banging on every bump with worn out OEM's.
Marty's rears have a tendency to allow the rear to move up or
rebound a little too fast but I can live with it because the
compression is soft enough to give me some spring action on the
harsh NJ roads. I could also lower the rear one half inch to give me
a balance and not mess up the rear alignment. So, I now have what I
consider the best ride I have ever had in a DeLorean and that is
nearly 200,000 miles worth over the years. Of course, smooth roads
and super highways are a nice ride on just about any shock. I was
looking on line at the DMCH shocks - $800 for the full set, wow. Has
anyone tried them out?
Harold McElraft - 3354
--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Sonny V <sonnyvr2000@xxxx> wrote:
> Does anyone else besides me think it makes *NO* sense
> at all to put shocks from a Camaro and a Nissan truck
> on a rear-engine car with such uneven weight
> distribution (65R/35F) as a DeLorean? Can someone
> (Marty?) who advocates this explain why it is okay to
> do this?
>
> Sonny V
>
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 02:26:21 -0000
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Vinal stripe
I would think any stain could be removed with the usual heavy grit
emory cloth and the blending pad. I replaced a rear-view mirror and
the stains and dull metal around the mirror I removed this way
before I put the new one on. Really gave it a nice crisp look. I am
sure the stripe stains would come off the same way. I have seen the
hood logo stain cleaned up so there was no trace it was ever there.
Harold McElraft - 3354
--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Samuel <samuel_yahoo@xxxx> wrote:
> If a car has a stripe down the side, is it possible to remove the
stripe
> and what would it take? Would there likely be a mark left
(example, the
> usually noticable mark where the delorean logo on the hood on the
83's
> is removed).
>
> Samuel
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 02:28:56 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Positive Story about the DeLorean
I own 5 Lincoln Mark V's -- 5,000 pounds of opulent excess. Last time
one of them made 900 mile trip to/from DC was 4th July 2002 (drove
latest purchase home from New York this spring, but that doesn't
really count).
In same time frame my little silver car has been up there four times,
plus initial drive home from Pennsylvania. Never makes the trip
without SOMETHING breaking, but has yet to put me walking (fuel pump
ground was lost here in town, about a mile from house). Did almost
burn the car up in Fayetteville last November... Otherwise I've found
my DeLo to be very reliable and comfortable on I-95. Am looking
forward to eventually getting cruise control installed for future trips.
Wasn't supposed to turn out like this of course. Sole purpose of
driveway full of Lincolns is variety choice for road trips. Need to
discipline myself so they too will someday get a good road burn.
DeLoreans are far from perfect, are certainly not Gods (heads up
everyone giving Ken K a hard time recently), but are not design basket
cases either.
Bill Robertson
#5939
>--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw@xxxx> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> With all the stories about things breaking down on this list
> I'd thought to share some positive experience with you all...
>
> The past weekend I've been upto The UK and back from my
> home in The Netherlands to have fun with the DOC-UK as
> guests at the Renault Club UK at Gaydon, near Birmingham.
>
> I made it out there and back home without any real troubles,
> my clutch is definately starting to show signs of wear,
> the blower motor bearings ar definately busted and a
> couple of lights on my LED-panel decided to go on strike.
> Other than that my trip wasn't really eventfull.
>
> The most exiting time I had was getting off of the ferry
> and seeing my fuel light coming on and staying on...
> I thought there was a gas station just outside of Calais,
> but instead there was a sign saying that the next services
> were past Dunkerque.
>
> It turned out to be 15 kilometers into Belgium, over 70km
> from Calais. To preserve fuel I shut off all unneccesary
> stuff like the A/C, blower and radio. At the end of the off
> ramp when braking to queue up to the pumps the car stalled...
>
> Got it running again and could finally fill it up again.
> It took 50,96 liters of fuel! Meaning I had only 0,7 left!
> After re fuelling it was smooth cruising home, with an
> occasional traffic jam, but not to bad.
> I arrived home at 02h15 CET (01h15 GMT).
>
> Some stats for my trip (thanks to my nifty bike computer):
> Total Distance traveled out and back: 1511,5 km (± 940 mi)
> Total actual driving time: 15h48m (time from home: 42h15)
> Average Speed driven: 95,55 kmh (± 59 mph)
> Maximum speed attained: 182 kmh (± 113 mph)
> My car now has 41288 miles on it, over 12000 more
> than when I bought it allmost 3 years ago!
>
> Best mileage I got, with the A/C on constantly, lights on
> and stereo playing quite loud: 9 km to the liter (±21 mpg?)
> Not bad I would say!
>
> The lights on my LED-panel should be easily fixed,
> I'll have to examine the blower motor a bit more before
> I decide what to do with it and the clutch is only STARTING
> to show wear, so I'm "saving" it now, so I can make a 120mi
> trip in three weeks and then doe the work it needs...
>
> All in all I think my DeLorean held out quite well and
> I really enjoyed my stay in Brittain. For those of you
> that think a DeLorean is not relieable;
> I think I've just proven you wrong!
>
> If it weren't for the clutch (probably 20 years old)
> I would do it right again in a heartbeat!
>
> JAN van de Wouw
>
> Thinking Different... Using a Mac...
> Living the Dream... Driving a DeLorean...
> Shifting Expectations... Driving a Nissan...
>
> DMC-12 "Dagger" since Sep. 2000
> 100NX "Saphire" since Nov. 2002
> -------------------------------
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