Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderator@xxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 10 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Pic of '81 Radio From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 2. Re: GM Engine - Conversion Prices Exceeds Car's From: DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx 3. Bricklin Item. From: DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx 4. Packard Tranny From: "marvin" <marv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 5. Re: Winner of the Gold DeLorean From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 6. RE: Re: GM Engine/modifying your Delorean From: CBL302@xxxxxxx 7. Re: Re: GM Engine - Conversion Prices Exceeds Car's From: jus4sho@xxxxxxx 8. Re: spare tires From: njp548@xxxxxxx 9. My Clutch From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra@xxxxxxx> 10. Re: Re: GM Engine/modifying your Delorean From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:35:01 -0400 From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Pic of '81 Radio That sounds like mine. MIne is a very simple stereo with a digital display, five presets, and a tape deck with a FF/EJECT button. It's nothing like what I see in this picture. http://www.babbtechnology.com/Collect/Craig/ Is this what it should have in it?? > Message: 25 > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:13:23 -0400 > From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Pic of '81 Radio > > My DeLorean has an unusual Craig with a digital clock and no > presets. Someone > who should know told me that this was the radio that dealers > would have > installed in early cars if the original failed, and that it was never > installed in the factory. I never researched to confirm the story. > > Sorry, I do not have a picture. If I remember I will take > one over the > holiday weekend. > > - Mike Substelny > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 19:41:49 -0000 From: DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: GM Engine - Conversion Prices Exceeds Car's This is true. And while I'm sure this will be the equivalent of smacking a hornets nest with a stick, but there is one litte snag to all this; The DeLorean is NOT a street rod, it was not intended to be one, nor should it become one. I'm not saying this a a prude, I think that proper modifications for the DeLorean have the ability to make the car far more enjoyable/safer/what have you. But I am saying this as someone who has already taken something like this into consideration. A bigger engine for more power? As an owner, I can more than understand that, and I even agree. But there does come a point where there is overkill. Especially in the DeLorean. For braking purposes, I carry weights up front. Slaming the brakes in a DeLorean while going 45+ mph is no fun. You will end up spinning the steeringwheel just to couter the inertia of the engine behind you to keep the rear end from swinging up front. The same if you start taking corners too fast. Don't get me wrong, I love the true rear- engine design of the DeLorean. And I love the handling, but over 200 hp, I would begin to worry about personal safety. Just as fast as you can speed up, you need to have to ability not just to slow down, but to stop. Even true street rods that you mention will have consideration for safety features like a roll cage. Obviously someone who would attempt this type of a conversion would have the driving skills to handle all the power. But the biggest question of all remains: When would you be able to drive something like this? I've seen alot of street rods at shows, and at the track. But to me something you build just to look at, and maybe take to the track when you get the chance is, well, dumb. To me, an unused car, is a useless car. And my DeLorean is a daily driver. If a street rod, or something to that effect is something you really want to build, a Bricklin is a more suited car than a DeLorean is. You can purchase a B for what you need for around $4K or so. And it has the front mouted engine, and a bigger, more powerful engine(s) at that. Just my .02¢ -Robert vin 6585 --- In dmcnews@xxxx, jus4sho@xxxx wrote: > I just wanted to make one statement responding to Joe's comment about a conversion being questionable if its price exceeds that of the vehicle: > > While one should always consider their realistic budget, some people do have larger budgets. > In the street rodding world, a quality custom street rod can easily cost 50, 80 , or over $100K to build, yet most of the actual unrestored vehicles that are purchased to start these project rarely cost over $10K. I don't own a $50K+ street rod, but I do enjoy looking at them so I'm glad street rodders don't apply your logic. > > My $0.02 <SNIP> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:39:03 -0000 From: DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx Subject: Bricklin Item. To be perfectly honest, I wasn't too sure where to put this. But since there are Bricklin owners on the list as well, I though this may be of interest. http://www.geocities.com/treasureroom/Bricklin.html The owner is selling the car, but what caught my eye is the beautiful headlight conversion. It gives the car a whole new look! This my even spark a little creativity for Delorean owners as well. -Robert vin 6585 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:03:56 -0400 From: "marvin" <marv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Packard Tranny Mike: Doth thou speak with thy tongue in cheek? Push button tranny shifter like the ones Chrysler had in the early 60's and Packard transmissions for a Delorean? Are you smelling funny stuff in that fluid you use to polish your car? Slap stick linkage, Hurst, Volvo, Northstar, Rover, ---I can understand these--but not Packard! It died. Let it rest! Plus the fact, alot of the new owners have no idea what a Packard.was ! Marv. #4239 Marvin Stein tel: 519 - 434 - 1666 fax: 519 - 434 - 7071 email: marv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx web: printeddrinkware.com Printed Drinkware Company 924 Dundas Street London, Ontario, Canada N5W 3A1 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 23:36:01 +0100 From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Winner of the Gold DeLorean theshovel1224@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > > 4301-black interior, automatic, Bank in Snyder, TX Nope - it's a manual. The rest is correct. Interestingly, Joe Murray swore blind the two Amex cars had saddle interiors - his wife made the seats! They were both convinced the original pair had tan interiors, but hey, we've all seen the pictures" Martin ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 23:24:30 -0000 From: CBL302@xxxxxxx Subject: RE: Re: GM Engine/modifying your Delorean 12 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:22:15 -0400 From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: Re: GM Engine/modifying your Delorean >On the other hand, if this was a $6000 conversion Richard would >quickly >have a few hundred DeLoreans outside his shop waiting for Notrhstar >engines.. :) I may be wrong on this (because of the age of our Deloreans) would not the "Feds" bust them for Emissions tampering/modifying from stock,Remember back in the 70's there was a Company called Motion Performance on Long Island NY that used to get stock HiPo Camaro,Vettes and Vegas,and Turn them into 11 second Street cars,after a while the Federal Government(EPA) caught up with them and fined them something in the neighborhood of $25,000 per car,(in 1970's dollars) and they made at least a few hundred,and were Shut down/ told NEVER to make/modify such cars again,the company that is putting the Nortstar engine in the Deloreans is basically doing what Motion performance was doing in the Seventies.Technically NO BUSINESS/or individual may modify a EPA certified vehicle from factory EPA certified Specifications,THAT also INCLUDES modifying a ORIGINAL factory engine (Turbo's,cams,pistons,heads ect),EPA,most likely will not bust a individual,unless,they go into business modifying cars,that would be taken care of at the local level(DMV) Correct me if I am wrong. Claude 000570 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:37:42 EDT From: jus4sho@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Re: GM Engine - Conversion Prices Exceeds Car's Point taken Robert. I agree that there's no substitute for proper planning and safety. I just needed to make the point that investing more into a project car than the original vehicle is worth is in many cases the norm and that's just the way the sport is. Steve [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 21:30:08 EDT From: njp548@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: spare tires In a message dated 8/31/01 3:26:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: << An alternative is to place it on the engine cover under the louvre with a bungee cord and drive slow. It is also a great place to put a pizza! >> Since I'm in the Pizza business (pizza maker) and have to deliver to customers in my car every so often, I think I'll try this! Definitely would make sure the pizza is still hot. Even though I hate all the stupid BTTF jokes I get with the car, there was one that was kinda funny because I deliver in it. Here goes..."If you don't get your pizza in 30 minutes or less, we'll go back in time just for you!" Later, Nick Pitello 1852 <A HREF="Http://members.aol.com/njp548">Http://members.aol.com/njp548</A> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 01:36:39 -0000 From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra@xxxxxxx> Subject: My Clutch I've just uploaded a picture of my slave cylinder/clutch fork connection to the files section. I would appreciate it if some of the more technical folks take a look at it and tell me what they think. In the picture you can see the push-rod from the slave cylinder fully extended and the outer seal torn off. You can also see the broken link between it and the clutch fork. I tried pushing the rod back into the slave cylinder but couldn't. I guess my main question is what direction is the top of the clutch fork normally supposed to rest at? Twords the engine, or the front of the car? Because I can run though every gear with the engine running like the clutch pedal was fully depressed. And the top of the fork appears to be twords the engine. Here is the picture... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/files/Clutch.jpg Jim Reeve MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club DMC-6960 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 22:02:39 -0400 From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Re: GM Engine/modifying your Delorean > I may be wrong on this (because of the age of our Deloreans) would I'm also no expert, but I believe it goes by the age of the car itself (not the motor), so you can put newer engines (Northstar) into older cars (Delorean) without EPA problems. On the other hand, you can't take a 1960's Ford 429ci engine and drop it into your 2001 Dodge Neon. -Hank #1619 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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