dmcnews-digest Tuesday, May 5 1998 Volume 03 : Number 362
In this issue:
Re: DML: Gas Guage
Re: DML:twin turbos
DML: Fan Selector
DML: Fuel Gauge Sender Calibration
DML: Re:Dead Pedal
Re: DML:twin turbos
Re: DML:twin turbos
Re: DML: Shifting Problems...
DML: Mirror question
Re: DML: Re:Dead Pedal
DML: Re: Cross Drilled Rotors
DML: De Lorean Midatlantic Annual Spring Social
DML:twin turbos
Re: DML: Shifting Problems
Re: DML: Fan Selector
Re: DML: Trip Odometer Reset
DML: where are my keys?
Re: DML: BRAIDED CLUTCH LINE
DML: DeLorean Movie
DML: Re: Re:Dead Pedal
Re: DML: Hmmm.. Let's clear up something...
DML: delorean front end
DML: Gas Mileage on Turbo
DML: Re: useless horn
DML: Re: Fan Selector
Re: DML: Re: Steel Braid Clutch Line.
DML: Re: Fuel Gauge Sender Calibration
Re: DML: De Lorean Midatlantic Annual Spring Social
DML: Re: delorean front end
DML: Need an engine
Re: DML: Re:Dead Pedal
Re: DML: Gas Mileage on Turbo
Re: DML: Re: Re:Dead Pedal
DML: Re: Delorean Hood Emblem
Re: DML: Re:Dead Pedal
Re: DML: De Lorean Midatlantic Annual Spring Social
Re: DML: Re:Dead Pedal
DML: Rainbow DeLorean...
Re: DML: Gas Mileage on Turbo
DML: Birmingham show
Re: DML: Mirror question
Re: DML: Gas Mileage on Turbo
Re: DML: Re: PRV6 possibilities
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 08:56:17 -0700
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Gas Guage
Further to the gas mileage with twin turbos:
I agree with Chris - if you are only getting 15 mpg you are either stop
light dragging with every Mustang 5.0 you see, or you need a tune up. I
get around 22 mpg overall with a high of 24+ on trips.
Dick Ryan
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 12:48:48 EDT
From: O14usa <O14usa@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML:twin turbos
where do you get kits for twin turbo conversion , and how much , and are
they
smog legal in california?
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 12:11:20 -0700
From: Daniel McGauley <hawkeye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Fan Selector
What controls the fan selector (1 through 4)? I had it working fine, but
now none of the 4 modes work at all. No fuses are blown and I messed
around with the obvious relays. Any suggestions?
- -Daniel
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 13:42:52 -0400
From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Fuel Gauge Sender Calibration
The other day there was mention of an article in the Journal
that dealt with the fuel gauge sender problem and the "fix"
for it. For those of us that either are not members of DOA
or have the $350.00 to spend on the set of back issues,
could someone explain what was in the article (No. 11
Spring 86. On page 33 )
Thanks,
Richard
MODERATOR'S NOTE: Since this info is apparently in the DOA magazine back
issues, the information should be obtained through the DOA.
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 13:50:00 EDT
From: Kayo Ong <KayoOng@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re:Dead Pedal
Joe,
Many vehicles that has manual transmission have "dead pedal" in them, or it
is
an option to have one installed.
A "dead pedal" is a unit that helps you "rest your left foot" when your are
not clutching.
The dead pedal has a rubber pedal pad (same configuration as the clutch and
brake pad) that sits on top of a metal bracket. This bracket and rubber pad
is now a unit that is mounted with fasteners in the driver's side of the
vehicle's compartment, either on the floor, or in this case on the left side
of the fender wall right by your left foot. When installed, it looks like
the
vehicle has four pedals going across the floor on the driver's side floor.
Configuration as below:
DEAD PEDAL - CLUTCH PEDAL - BRAKE PEDAL - GAS PEDAL
It does nothing in the operation of the vehicle, just to rest your left foot
and the leg, that is why it is called a dead pedal. It will support your
foot
and leg when you are not using it to clutch and shifting your tranny. IT
HELPS ON LONG DRIVES. Every had your foot hanging in suspension doing
nothing? Tiring is it not? This keeps both legs and feet in a "harmonized
symmetrical position." Love it. One of the best investments in the
vehicle.
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic 9D
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 10:54:28 +0000
From: ausmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML:twin turbos
Hi,
> where do you get kits for twin turbo conversion , and how much , and are
> they
> smog legal in california?
You get the kits from Eleanor Rogers, DBA "Island Turbos",. They
advertise in DMC News. The kit runs around $6K.
No they are not legal in CA as yet. Even though the engine produces
emissions that are well within the legal parameters, in CA it is
illegal to modify an approved exhaust system. Really dumb and
typical of a bureaucracy run amok.
Chris
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 14:03:25 EDT
From: Kayo Ong <KayoOng@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML:twin turbos
Call Turbo Manifold Co. at 800-449-1248 or 508-303-1924 ask for Eleanor.
Cost? Over $5,000. Plus. There is no shipping, and no installation.
Shipping is extra, and you have to install or get a qualified and
experienced
person to install it.
California legal? Probably if you have the "CAT" on.
Check with Eleanor.
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic. 9D NY
P.S. I am still thinking about it after two years for many reasons.
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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 03:51:50 +1000
From: fmacpro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Hiroo Yamada)
Subject: Re: DML: Shifting Problems...
At 23:50 98.05.01, NJP548 wrote:
> Hey List,
>
> My 5 Speed DeLorean does not go into Reverse, First and Second Gears.
> It
> goes into Third, Fourth and Fifth gears fine. I was thinking it might be
a
> broken cable or something but I could use some help if anyone has any??
> Thanks.
>
> Later,
> Nick
Dear Nick-san,
I had a similar shift difficulty problem before (1/98).
Mr. David Swingle told me the way to fix it.
At 07:24 98.01.03, David Swingle wrote:
> Hiroo Yamada wrote:
> >Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 02:31:15 +1000
> >
> >The problem is I can't change the gear to first & second. Third to
> >Fifth and reverse was no problem. Does anyone knows this problem ?
> >It's possible to change to first gear when I slightly pull the shift
> >nob and push it, but It's too hard to change to second gear anyway.
> >
> >hiroo (Member of DOC: Delorean owners club in Japan)
>
> Adjust the crossgate linkage. This can be done either at the
> transmission, or can be done by removing the shifter boot and removing
> and turning the linkage. You either have to lengthen or shorten the
> cable. Be careful, it is a very sensitive adjustment. One or two turns
> makes a large difference.
>
> If you have the service manual this is on page F:07:01. A summary of the
> instructions is:
> "With transmission in neutral and shift lever in 3-4th gate, shift lever
> stop pin should be centered in cross gate plate notch"
>
> and
>
> "Shortening cable will move shift lever stop pin to right"
>
> When you are finished, be sure all locknuts are tight. That's what caused
> my original problem.
>
>
>
> Dave Swingle
> 81 VIN 5429
> DOA, DMC, DMC(Midwest)
I guess the most first & second shift problem is extend of shift linkage
cable.
My Delorean linkage cable was extended about 1.5 - 2mm. When you open
cockpit
shift gear module inside, you can find shift gear limiter plate which
prevents
first / second and reverse gear interference.
Your shift trouble will be temporaly fixed if you remove this plate, but
gear
interference will occur. The best fix is Dave's specifed way. (I tried to
trim
cockpit side but in vain, you had better to fix transmission side)
I didn't have a good garage, so I made special limiter plate for temporaly
use.
ps. Thanks David-san, hope to see you in Japan !!!
hiroo (Member of DOC: Delorean owners club in Japan)
- --
Hiroo Yamada / JK1ASL __________ Internet: hiroo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Active Open Communications K.K ____ NIFTY-Serve: SDI00177 (FMACPRO Sysop)
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 14:14:19 -0500
From: Kevin Wolter <kwolter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Mirror question
Ever since I have owned my D, most of the time the drivers side mirror =
does not move left or right. It does move just fine when it does work. =
In addition, I have no problems with the passenger side mirror. I am =
thinking I have either a dead spot in the mirror motor or a loose wire =
in the mirror unit. I removed the mirror unit last year and did not =
notice a way to open the unit up. Is there a way to open it up or is it =
permanently sealed? I would prefer not to buy a new unit if the problem =
is something I can fix like a solder connection.
Thanks for your time.
- - Kevin #6810
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Date: Mon, 04 May 98 15:27:29 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re:Dead Pedal
> Joe,
>
> Many vehicles that has manual transmission have "dead pedal" in them, or
it
> is
> an option to have one installed.
Was this pedal put on 82 model cars as standard equipment ? I have 2 81
cars without it, nor is there rivnuts in place. My 82 cars does have the
pedal
installed, and its an automatic. I have also noticed it in 3 other cars.
all
3 were 82 models, 2 auto, 1 manual ?????
108992 is the part number I believe ?
- -Brandon
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 12:53:54 -0700
From: Matt Peak <mpeak@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Cross Drilled Rotors
Nick,
The company's name is AUTO SPECIALTY. They are located in
Torrance
California. I'm sorry I don't have the phone number with me, but they
are
listed on both the 1-800 directory and the 310 directory.
As far as performance goes, I think the crosss drilled rotors
are great.
I've combined them with semi-metallic brake pads (Auto Specialy Maxis
Brand) and have had great results. I still believe the diameter of the
Delorean's brake rotors are too small, but by cross drilling the rotors
and
using semi-metallic pads, I find that I am not hesitant to stomp on the
brakes if the situation requires it (whereas with the regular rotors, I
was
concerned with overheating and warping). Until a company decides to
produce larger diameter vented rotors for the Delorean, I beleive the
cross
drilled rotor is the best replacement.
By the way, I believe that PJ Grady and DMC Houston are selling these
rotors now. I would check them out first.
Matt Peak
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 16:23:33 -0400
From: Aldo.Buono@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: De Lorean Midatlantic Annual Spring Social
Nine owners gathered in Havertown, Pennsylvania, on April 26 along
with Rob Grady from P. J. Grady, Inc., for our Annual Door Adjustment
Social and Safety Check.
Attending were: Russ Anemone, Larry Arnold, Aldo Buono, Frank Brennan,
Ron Finelli, Dennis Lowery, Kayo Ong, Bob Petruska, and Ed Singer.
There was another De Lorean present without its owner. Rob was
trucking a D to his shop from the D.C. area. Another D needed
assistance making it to Ron Fineeli's home. Kayo's speedometer cable
snapped at the spindle just a few blocks from Ron's. Ron and Aldo
towed Kayo's D with a rope to Ron's. Rob had not brought a spare
cable from his Long Island shop. So, Ron decided to take the cable
out of one of the two Ds that he owns, and Rob installed it in Kayo's
D. Since Kayo is alive and well on the DML, I think we can safely that
he made it back to Manhattan without any further delays.
Rob Grady performed thorough inspections, and Ron and Aldo performed
several door adjustments. All of this was done complimentary as a
benefit of membership in De Lorean Midatlantic.
The social closed with a membership meeting at which the newly revised
Parts Interchange List was distributed to attending members. Members
who have renewed or joined this year will receive their copies shortly
in the mail.
Looking forward to meeting many of you in Cincinnati in June.
Aldo Buono, President
De Lorean Midatlantic
DOC, VIN 1440
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 16:35:30 -0400
From: "Jonthan Lazar" <jlazar6447@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML:twin turbos
How much horse power can be gained by adding the twin turbo system?
Jonathan Lazar
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 16:43:50 EDT
From: NJP548 <NJP548@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Shifting Problems
Hey List,
Earlier i went under my car and found where the cable hooks up to the
tranny.
It was sorta cut or rusted and then broke, so I ordered it from P.J's and I
should get it soon, thanks for the help, also thank god I didn't need any
major tranny work done to it.
Later,
Nick
VIN#1852
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 17:18:04 -0400
From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Fan Selector
Daniel,
There is a multi part resistor located in the air duct that
is also part of the fan control circuit. It is accessable
from the passenger side under the dash - it is relatively
obvious, has a connector in the bottom of the duct. This
also acts like a fuse.
Good luck,
Richard
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 18:37:32 EDT
From: dmcnut@xxxxxxxx (DeLorean Nut)
Subject: Re: DML: Trip Odometer Reset
On Sun, 03 May 1998 14:56:59 -0400 Richard Strecker <dmc1219@xxxxxxx>
writes:
>Help!
>
>I'm in the midst of spring cleaning/rehab of the "D" & am
>replacing the binacle. While I have it apart I would like
Hey! I'll take that binacle if it is in reasonable shape. Mine is split
open from sun damage. I don't care if yours is faded as long as it is
whole. Please email me. Thanks.
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 16:48:18 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: where are my keys?
To All:
Currently there are 10 Key orders on my workbench.
two (2) are new orders
Four (4) are going out tomorrow
They are:
1. Steel
2. Ellis
3. Montgomery
4. Linstad
The rest were scheduled to be shipped last week, but there was a problem
with the die used to make them. So these keys are being re-made which
will
take a week or so.
If your last name is on the following list, your keys were
completed and
are now being re molded.
In no particular order:
1. Mc Comb
2. Fisher
3. Crocket
4. Bennet
I should point out that the keys are Hand made, and for this reason
there
can be some surface imperfections. I never know to what degree these
will
show up until the key comes out of the die. I should also note that it
takes two days to produce a set of keys, so please understand that the
apparent delay is usually due to your place in line or your keys get
re-cycled due to failing to pass QC.
Thanks for your support!
Lee Seiler
81DMC-12
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 17:04:56 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: BRAIDED CLUTCH LINE
At 10:45 AM 5/4/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Lee,
>Thanks for the detailed description of the clutch bleeding process.
>It's ....................
............................Thanks,
>Cliff McComb
>#11546
reply:
My original clutch line ran down the driver side of the "X" frame.
It was
(is) held in place by plastic zip ties. I ran the new braid line right
along side of the old one and used new Zip ties to hold it in place.
Install the new line starting at the front (driver end), zip-tie it
against the installed line, then disconnect the driver end first, install
the new line, and put the protective nipple on the old line. thread the new
line along side the old and zip tie it in place. Disconnect the old line
and install the new line. Tighten the driver end per manual specs, leave
clutch end with just a snug fit. You can now bleed the line and test the
system.
You can leave the original in in place or cut it's ties to remove
it!
I had my D on 20 inch Jack Stands so I would have room to work.
I don't think it can be done with out jacking up the D.
Lee Seiler
81DMC-12
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 17:17:36 -0700
From: Mostafa Sayed <phoenixl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean Movie
I recently located the website of the people producing the new
biographic movie of John DeLorean it is at
http://www.blueriderpictures.com/ Go to the production house section.
Mostafa
http://members.tripod.com/~Phoenix007/index.html
DMC VIN: An owner soon enough.....
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 20:36:06 -0500
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Re:Dead Pedal
> A "dead pedal" is a unit that helps you "rest your left foot" when
your
are
> not clutching.
Early cars were criticized by the automobile media for not having a
place
to rest your left foot when not shifting. They suggested the car needed
a
dead pedal on the far left for a foot rest. This was comon on some
sports
cars and DMC was really watching the reaction to the first test cars
looked
at by the press. The dead pedal suggestion was taken seriously and was
added to production cars at some point during the '81 model run. It
doesn't
appear in the parts book but my car is a Nov '81, vin # 6938 and it has
the
dead pedal. Incidently, it also has the hood with grooves and no fuel
filler flap. I bought the car new and there were '82 models in the
dealers
inventory along with '81's. The 82's had smooth hoods with the DeLorean
lettering on the left front corner of the hood.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 19:21:25 -0700
From: Dan <DBerglund@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Hmmm.. Let's clear up something...
MODERATOR'S NOTE: Although I've pretty much killed this thread, I'm posting
this message because it establishes some additional data on the relationship
between hood styles and VIN numbers. In general I do not post messages that
have nothing new to contribute. Knut
My car #6623, Nov. 81 has lines in the hood....
Dan Berglund
Marc A Levy wrote:
> Also, keep in mind, Hoods may have been changed over the years due to
> dammage.
>
> My car, #6068 build Nov 81, has lines and no flap. If car #6298 has a
> flat hood, and is in fact origional, then we can guess the change was
> made some time in Nov 81!
>
> Marc
>
> tomcio wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I don't agree. I own a DeLorean vin 6298, it was made in November '81
> > and it has a flat hood with no gas flap in it. You can't really tell
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 22:44:45 -0400
From: Vicki Miller <"1000mil@xxxxxxx"@gte.net>
Subject: DML: delorean front end
I have a complete front end of a delorean for sale
for some one wanting to fix one....reasonable prices
call bob
1-919-383-6187
delivery available
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 23:06:11 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Gas Mileage on Turbo
It's all tuned up, and was checked by PJ grady a few weeks ago.. He
found that one of the cylinders has about 80% blow by. This could be a
good explanation as to my poor gas mileage!
I opted to drive the car the way it is for a while. Maybe get it
repaired later in the summer. I just hope I make it to Ohio!
> Good grief, maybe you better get a tune up!! On the other hand, maybe
> you stick your foot in it more than I do. Nah, couldn't be that, get
> a tune.
> I agree with Chris - if you are only getting 15 mpg you are either
stop
> light dragging with every Mustang 5.0 you see, or you need a tune up.
I
> get around 22 mpg overall with a high of 24+ on trips.
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 22:44:24 -0400
From: "Joe LoRe'" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: useless horn
Guy,
The horns are part of fuse circuit No.6, the hazard flashers are on the
same fuse, if the flashers work than you should get power to the horns. To
test the horn circuit unplug one of the connectors at either horn & insert
a 12V test lamp or meter between the disconnected wire and ground, if you
have power the horns are N.G., a common problem with the original horns.
Joe/DeLorean Services
- ----------
> From: guy.delor@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: useless horn
> Date: Sunday, May 03, 1998 11:35 AM
>
> Hi all!
>
> I've got a little problem since I got my car out
> of storage: the horn doesn'blow any more.
>
> I checked in the manual for the related fuse or
> relay but I found nothing. Is there someone able
> to help me? I don't like driving without it...
> Hey! you never know when you will really need it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Guy V. Boutet
> '81 DMC-12
> '87 Supra
> '84 Eurosport
>
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 22:35:28 -0400
From: "Joe LoRe'" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Fan Selector
Daniel, The fan switch receives power from the AC mode switch via a light
green wire.
You might also check the connections to the blower motor under the glove
box, you may have had a passenger with "big feet" who may have kicked a
connector loose from the motor.
Bob/DeLorean Services
- ----------
> From: Daniel McGauley <hawkeye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: Fan Selector
> Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 3:11 PM
>
> What controls the fan selector (1 through 4)? I had it working fine, but
> now none of the 4 modes work at all. No fuses are blown and I messed
> around with the obvious relays. Any suggestions?
>
> -Daniel
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 22:51:21 -0400
From: "Joe LoRe'" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Steel Braid Clutch Line.
Joe,
The "dead pedal" is nothing more than additional pedal bolted to the
left
wall of the drivers foot well. Its only function is to serve as a foot
rest, not needed by tall people like myself. This item was added to late
82
and 83 cars.
Bob/DeLorean Services
- ----------
> From: JSteuben <JSteuben@xxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Steel Braid Clutch Line.
> Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 9:11 AM
>
> Dead pedal? Could you tell us more about it? Thanks, Joe
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 23:12:10 -0400
From: "Joe LoRe'" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Fuel Gauge Sender Calibration
Richard,
The article in question involves less than a couple of dollars of radio
shack parts but is a detailed description (1/3 of a page), too long for
e-mail. Back issues of Delorean World are $12.50, you do not have to be a
DOA member, you can place you order at www.delorean-owners.org.
- ----------
> From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219@xxxxxxx>
> To: DMC News <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: DML: Fuel Gauge Sender Calibration
> Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 1:42 PM
>
> The other day there was mention of an article in the Journal
> that dealt with the fuel gauge sender problem and the "fix"
> for it. For those of us that either are not members of DOA
> or have the $350.00 to spend on the set of back issues,
> could someone explain what was in the article (No. 11
> Spring 86. On page 33 )
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard
>
> MODERATOR'S NOTE: Since this info is apparently in the DOA magazine back
> issues, the information should be obtained through the DOA.
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 23:27:44 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: De Lorean Midatlantic Annual Spring Social
towed? Why? Cant a car be driven with a broken spedo cable?
Aldo.Buono@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> assistance making it to Ron Fineeli's home. Kayo's speedometer cable
> snapped at the spindle just a few blocks from Ron's. Ron and Aldo
> towed Kayo's D with a rope to Ron's. Rob had not brought a spare
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 22:49:42 -0500
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: delorean front end
- ----------
> From: Vicki Miller <"1000mil@xxxxxxx"@gte.net>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: delorean front end
> Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 9:44 PM
>
> I have a complete front end of a delorean for sale
> for some one wanting to fix one....reasonable prices
> call bob
> 1-919-383-6187
> delivery available
Bob,
This was in the Sunday edition of the Minneapolis News Paper:
Wanted: DeLorean front end parts or Delorean for front end parts. Call
Howard, 507-345-4568 days or 507-243-3229 eves.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 21:31:16 -0800
From: "tomcio" <tomcio@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Need an engine
Hi all,
I'm still looking for a comlete DeLorean engine (used). Anybody????
Please help.... Thanx
Tom
vin 6298
tomcio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 00:59:47 EDT
From: JSteuben <JSteuben@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re:Dead Pedal
Thanks Brandon, and everyone else who responded to my question. Do you know
where I can buy one? Joe
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 21:38:11 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Gas Mileage on Turbo
At 11:06 PM 5/4/98 -0400, you wrote:
>It's all tuned up, and was checked by PJ grady a few weeks ago.. He
>found that one of the cylinders has about 80% blow by. This could be a
>good explanation as to my poor gas mileage!
>
>I opted to drive the car the way it is for a while. Maybe get it
>repaired later in the summer. I just hope I make it to Ohio!
>
>
>> Good grief, maybe you better get a tune up!! On the other hand, maybe
>> you stick your foot in it more than I do. Nah, couldn't be that, get
>> a tune.
>
>
>> I agree with Chris - if you are only getting 15 mpg you are either
>stop
>> light dragging with every Mustang 5.0 you see, or you need a tune up.
>I
>> get around 22 mpg overall with a high of 24+ on trips.
>
reply:
Hi Marc,
80% blow-by? just as a matter or interest do you know how he
came to the
conclusion it is blow-by. Or do you mean 20% compression. Its very
unusual
to have that much loss and still run smoothly. 80% suggest several
broken
rings, which could ruin the cylinder and Piston. Is your oil black and
gritty? You could also have a burned valve and/or seat and get low
compression. It also possible but unlikely that a cam lobe is worn or
the
shaft is bent.
I should mention I have no doubt that PJ's is right on the
money, I am
just interested in the condition. Usually if Compression is very low in
one
cylinder it will very with all the rest, when just one is flat and the
rest
OK, it generally means a massive failure of some kind.
Lee Seiler
81DMC-12
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 21:25:37 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Re:Dead Pedal
At 08:36 PM 5/4/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> A "dead pedal" is a unit that helps you "rest your left foot"
when.........
........appear in the parts book but my car is a Nov '81, vin # 6938 and
it
has
>the dead pedal. Incidently, it also has the hood with grooves and no
fuel
>filler flap. I bought the car new and there were '82 models in the
>dealers inventory along with '81's. The 82's had smooth hoods with the
DeLorean lettering on the left front corner of the hood.
>
>Bruce Benson
reply:
as a reference:
I have an Oct 81 Build with grooved, no gas flap hood and no dead pedal.
Lee Seiler
81DMC-12
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Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 10:09:56 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Delorean Hood Emblem
Dave Price said:
> I have a hood with the "De Lorean" lettering on it... Does
> anyone know how the emblem is attatched? Is it just
> adhesive, or are there holes in the hood under it?
I believe this is attached with adhesive. I bought one of those emblems
at Kapac two years ago, and it came with double-faced tape on the
back, but no posts or anything else that would pass through holes in the
luggage compartment lid.
Are you planning to remove your emblem?
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:22:41 -0700
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Re:Dead Pedal
My first D was a "late 81" VIN 6530 with a build of Oct or Nov 81. It
was
an automatic and had the "dead" pedal. My 83 does as well.
Dick Ryan
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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 12:11:05 EDT
From: Kayo Ong <KayoOng@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: De Lorean Midatlantic Annual Spring Social
To all members of the Midatlantic Region,
Mr. Aldo Buono, good administrating of the event, and good report on the
event.
I would like to take the time at this point to thank everyone for a good
time
during the event.
I want to give personal THANKS especially to Mr. Ron Finelli who was kind
enough to towed me and to GIVE me his accelerator cable that he has taken
from
his Delorean.
I was stuck on the road about seven blocks to his home.
I also want to THANK Mr. Rob Grady of P.J. Grady Inc., who was kind enough
to
install the cable for me, at no charge!
THANK YOU BOTH RON and ROB. This is unusual from a commercial and
professional positions, since this is their livelihood. Without these two
gentlemen's help, I guess I would not get back home to NYC at that day, let
along all the hassle to follow afterwards to get my Delorean back on the
road.
The snapping of the accelerator cable was just one of those fluke situation.
Since I do drive my Delorean daily, I do keep my car right up to par with no
expense spared. With all my cars that I own or collected, my motto is:
"when
in doubt, take it out." Rob said it was unusual for the way the cable to
have
snapped. It was worn clean to a taper. Usually there will be signs of
binding to indicate that the cable "IS GOING." With my luck, it just had to
be me, that day, that way! No signs at that time for the failure.
Folks, CHECK your cable for "fraying" at the cable end to accelerator
linkage
connection. Don't get stuck for simple things! It is right in front of you
when you open the hood. If it looks fray or thin, change it. It is not an
expensive item, and will save a lot of headaches a grief. Simple thing.
Anyway, the event and the meeting was enjoyable with good people attending
the
Midatlantic Region. There was a front end and door struts check by Mr. Rob
Grady which I missed because of my incident. I don't think I have troubles
at
these areas anyway, since Rob do service my Delorean, periodically.
There was a club member's meeting with a discussion of the club's
operations,
and other points of interest. Mr. Michael Pack show a video of an interview
with Mr. John Z. Delorean.
Mr. Ron Finelli and his mother were both kind enough to host the meeting at
their home and to supply all the refreshments and food. Thank you Rob for
the
pizzas.
I guess this is the TRUE SPIRIT in a club and the members.
Again, THANKS to all the members of the Midatlantic Region.
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic 9D NY
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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 12:56:51 EDT
From: Kayo Ong <KayoOng@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re:Dead Pedal
Joe,
Call Rob, at P.J. Grady 800-350-7429 for the "dead pedal"
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic. 9D NY
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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 14:25:37 EDT
From: My 83 DMC <My83DMC@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Rainbow DeLorean...
Hello, all!
I was looking through some old magazines I had from
across-the-
seas (mostly India), and in one of them I found a picture of a prime
minister
standing on a street. Not very special, but you can see the front part of a
right-hand drive DeLorean sitting on the road. From what I can tell, it
looks
to be in very bad condition, as one of the headights were broken, and it
appeared to be at an angle, which suggested a flat tire.
The interesting detail, was that it was painted in a "rainbow"
of colors, all in a wavy format.
Since my scanner is currently malfunctioning, I will try to
get
it scanned at a friend's house, and then I'll post it on my webpage.
Stay Tuned!
Supratik Lahiri
http://members.aol.com/Zamere/index2.htm
^*DeLorean Headquarters proudly presents The Wings of the DeLorean..*^
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Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 16:40:35 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Gas Mileage on Turbo
He explained that he puts pressure in to the cylinder, and measures the
loss. The loss was 80% on one of the cylinders (#5 maybe?) He did
mention that it was one of the first ones he checked, so I dont know if
he checked any of the other cylinders.
The engine runs pretty much the same as when I purchased it. When I
change the oil, I have never noticed anything strange about it. Yea, its
kinda dark, but all used oil is... no?
I did notice that when I remove the PCV canister from the valve cover,
there is a significant amount of air being pushed out of there.. I did
not think it was strange, because I had no means of comparison.
Either way, The engine seems to run well otherwise. No strange noises
that I have noticed.
I do have a older style compression checker. What is the compression
supposed to be? Maybe I will tinker this weekend.
Marc
lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> 80% blow-by? just as a matter or interest do you know how he
> came to the
> conclusion it is blow-by. Or do you mean 20% compression. Its very
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Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 19:31:49 +0100
From: "Martin Gutkowski (UK)" <msg101@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Birmingham show
Hi all,
I will be writing a report of the Birmingham classic car show we had
over this last weekend when I have a bit more time. One thing I wanted
to write asap was regarding a thread I started ages ago about re-gassing
door struts. I found out some more details about this, and it ISN't a
service offered my many places, but it certainly can be done.
There is a place in London where every owner at the show had had their
struts re-gassed at some point. Working at an ex-rate of $1.69 to the
pound, I'll take care of a pair of struts, including shipping for $100.
This really works - even to the point of the doors being a little too
energetic on one of the cars we had on the stand :-) (it was warm in the
Exhibition Centre)
Anyone interested?
Martin
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Date: Tue, 05 May 98 17:33:50 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Mirror question
> Ever since I have owned my D, most of the time the drivers side mirror
=
> does not move left or right. It does move just fine when it does
work. =
> In addition, I have no problems with the passenger side mirror. I am
=
> thinking I have either a dead spot in the mirror motor or a loose wire
=
> in the mirror unit. I removed the mirror unit last year and did not =
> notice a way to open the unit up. Is there a way to open it up or is
it =
> permanently sealed? I would prefer not to buy a new unit if the
problem =
> is something I can fix like a solder connection.
Its not "permanently" sealed, but the screw to remove the
motor mech is located behind the glass, which is glued
on. You can be very very careful and remove the glass.
seems to help if it is warm.
- -Brandon
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Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 18:04:28 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Gas Mileage on Turbo
Home now, and just started the car up. There is something coming out of
the oil passages (dip stick, and PCV) At first it kinda looks and smells
like gas vapor, but it is more likely rich exhaust fumes. The strange
part is that the temperature seems a lot colder than the exhaust from
the tail pipes. This is most likley due to bad rings, but it could also
be a bad head gasket, or a bad seal in one of the turbo housings. Or,
is this supposed to happen?! :)
Rob and I had the discussion about what the problem, and the results of
letting it go. Because the Delorean uses a cylinder sleeve that needs
to be replaced with the rings anyway, further damage is unlikely if I
continue to drive it this way. Even if the rings are snapped, they are
only going to damage the sleeves that are being replaced anyway (when I
do get it fixed)
I have been considering doing the job myself. I Have done major engine
work before, and the use of sleeves eliminates the need for a machine
shop to hone the cylinders. I looked through the service manual, and
noticed some strange procedures. Such as the Head installation
procedure. All engines I have worked on have a torque sequence, and
specification. The DMC has some kind of special tool they show that is
used to set the angle of the bolt?! Could someone explain this to me?
I just can't even picture what they want done, or even the purpose....
Maybe this procedure is instead of using a torque wrench?!
Either way, I am going to try to make it to Ohio as is.. I hope to
caravan with someone! (like anyone would want to now!!) I plan on
leaving Thursday PM, and sleeping in western PA the first night. I'd
like to make a quick stop in eastern Ohio Friday AM (for another one of
my hobbies) and then go to the R&R hall of fame Friday afternoon before
the dinner.
lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> 80% blow-by? just as a matter or interest do you know how he
> came to the
> conclusion it is blow-by. Or do you mean 20% compression. Its very
> unusual
> to have that much loss and still run smoothly. 80% suggest several
> broken
> rings, which could ruin the cylinder and Piston. Is your oil black and
> gritty? You could also have a burned valve and/or seat and get low
> compression. It also possible but unlikely that a cam lobe is worn or
> the
> shaft is bent.
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Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 18:10:22 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: PRV6 possibilities
Sorry to bring back a old thread, but...
Did anyone on the Peugeot list talk about compatibility with the new
crysler that we have heard uses the same block?
Heck.. With my engine problems, maybe I will but a wrecked Crysler (the
comercial said they get 200HP from the 2.7L, I guess this is the PRV
grandson) and drop that in!
Thanks,
Marc
Dave Price wrote: (on 4/20/98)
>
> I read a message on the online Peugeot mailing list archive over the
> weekend
> that said the PRV engine was originally designed to be a V8, but the
> gas-shortage caused them to make it a V6. However some of the internal
> stuff
> was still calibrated for a V8, making the engine "unbalanced". I
guess in
> '87 Volvo updated the internals, making the engine more "balanced",
and
> renamed it to B280.. I'll try and find the post again, to see if
anyone
> can
> clarify exactly what this change may be able to do for our engines.
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